Thursday, July 05, 2007

IF GOD IS OUT THERE THEN WHY NO OBVIOUS SIGNS (S)?

Religion is and has been one of my favorite topics for a long time. Talking about religion is something I have always enjoyed and usually find intellectually and spiritually rewarding as well. What I would like to do with this post is to promote and expand understanding amongst open minded religious and non religious people about what spirituality (not religion) is really all about. I would also like to give people an opportunity to express why they love and have such faith in their creator as expressed through their religion.

I myself was raised a Christian, I even tried pretty hard to be a good one. At about the age of 15 I was influence by an older gentleman who was a devout believer in Jesus Christ. He told me that there had once been a time in his life when everything he touched fell apart and he was lost. He believed that he'd been rescued from his pain and suffering through the blessings of god.

This gentleman actually drove the bus that took us to school in the morning and so I got the chance to really get to know him and who he was. What a true gentlemen this man was. He was totally committed to his beliefs, he gave up women, liquor and several other things he considered vices all in an effort to walk in step with god. After talking about the scriptures with him for a time, I became motivated and inspired to find god. So I attempted to read the Bible in its entirety, my purpose wasn't just to read the scriptures for the sake of reading the scriptures I was trying to get closer to god. Even though my life was rough at the time I wasn't asking for help from god out of my situation I just wanted to do right by god and to be sure that I was doing right by god. Eventually I ended up spending about 3 months trying to read the bible.



One night while reading the scriptures, I began to get sleepy ( it was about 10:30 pm and I had school the next day). But I still wanted to get some more reading in , so I went to the bathroom were it was cold, hoping that would keep me awake so I could continue studying gods word. I again began to fall asleep. After a time I stopped reading and I attempted to speak directly to god.



"God if this is your word then please give me a sign, just let me know that this is the way to get closer to you" The reply I got back was silence I again asked god to show me a sign, and again I received the same reply which was silence. Shortly after this I then began to ask god questions that had been lingering in my mind for a while. Things such as God if you exist then how com?

Some folks (including innocent children) don't have enough food to eat while some rotten people get to live it up.

Some children don't have parents around to love, protect and guide them as they struggle to survive in a world that can be cruel.
So many good people have bad things happen to them including losing mothers and fathers who are actually providing for their children while some people who are rotten bastards get to live to ripe old ages mooching off of and using of others.

Once again folks, nothing but silence, in spite of the fact that I have spent a great deal of time and energy over the years agonizing over these questions. In spite of all that effort I had put into finding and knowing these answers, there wasn't and hasn't been any answers forthcoming from god about such questions for me.



I could never understand why the most unfortunate things happen to children through no fault of their own in a just world, underneath the supervision and authority of a god, who not only has the power to stop such things from happening but also knew these children would suffer long before they or their parents were even born.



Although I continued to be a christian for the next 3 or so years, that night in the bathroom when I asked for a sign from god and received nothing was the beginning of my eventual break from Christianity ( as well as my biased and sometimes hostile attitude towards all religions).

By the age of 20 my break with religion (Christianity) was complete and permanent. It was the most painful and disappointing thing I have ever gone through in my life. Since the, I have participated in lots of ( sometimes exasperating but enjoyable) conversations with Christians of all sects. I have also had similar conversations with people of different religions including Judaism and Islam. Eventually I have found, that if we debate long enough it always concludes with the religious folk saying something such as,



"well, we cant prove our religion's validity over another, we have our text and our beliefs and after that its a matter of faith and god will decide who one is correct",



to which I point out that millions of Muslims/Jew/Budhisht have faith in their religions validity, does that mean because they are not Christians and don't believe that Jesus Christ was the son of god or even if they don't believe in Jesus Christ at all they wont get to heaven when their "faith" has lead them to these beliefs. My thinking on this matter is, that type of logic is backwards and retarded so personally, I have always believed that spiritual/religious people need to come up with a better explanation to the questions I have posed other than its a matter of faith in the end and that determines whether or not folks get to paradise (heaven) or not.



I have never received anything close to a credible or logical answer from Christians or other religious folks when I have asked question such as these. The above questions still linger in my mind to this day in fact I have asked those same questions of Christians and people of other religious affiliations many times and in many different ways and I never received any answer to similar and obvious questions based on the logic that Christians and other religious folks use to explain the world and god. My other questions have been and are

If everything is written then how is it possible for any man or woman to have free will or control over their actions?
If god created everything in the universe including the devil and all of the evil inside of the devil wouldn't that make god responsible for everything that the devil has ever done to hurt mankind?
If god knew exactly what the devil was going to do to confuse and hurt his children wouldn't that also make god responsible for the devils actions especially when you factor in that god created all of the wickedness inside of the devil and human beings in the first place.?
If god put the capacity inside of man and the devil to harm innocent people (particularly children) and the world, then wouldn't that make god responsible for the harm to children and people caused by man and the devil?

If god loves man then why is there so much wickedness, murder, rape, mayhem and chaos going on in the world, especially around impressionable children and what about famines and other natural disasters that injure and kill scores of people every year if god can stop them and doesn't wouldn't that make him responsible for those disasters as well?

Every year millions of kids, die from starvation, debilitating, painful and disfiguring disease's. Millions of women and children are sexually abused, raped and made orphans by aids each year in Africa alone, let alone the rest of the world. Their are now 10 million orphans in Africa as a result of the Aids epidemic and my question to god and Christians is this, didn't god know that all of these catastrophes were gonna go down and how come he didn't stop them from happening at least to innocent children? The christian god I was raised on is an all powerful being indeed, how hard would it have been for him to step in and prevent terribly unfortunate incidents at least from happening to kids ?

When I have asked questions like these in the past Christians have responded with these types of answers " Read bible chapter such and such " ( insert appropriate biblical quote here) , My response is , exactly which of the over 20 different bibles should I read chapter such and such from after all their are over 20 different bibles. Ive also heard things such as well god has his own plan and whatever happens is gods will.

My response is this type of thinking is, those are profound sounding words but they wont put a single meal in the mouths of 1 of those 10 million orphans in Africa (or any other third world regions), those words wont heal any child in the world infected with aids by their mother nor will they heal any of the thousands of people in Liberia and Sierra Leone who have had their hands, feet and other body parts amputated by butchers.

Ive also heard things like, maybe god showed you a sign and you just didn't see it. My response to this is, why would god make a sign hard to see when I ( or anybody else) is asking him to reveal his word? Ive also heard things such as maybe kids are suffering for the sins of their parents. My reply to this is, If god is a just god then that doesn't make any sense to me, why should a kid suffer for actions of the parents which they have no control of.

Every year millions of kids are forced into into illegal/sinful activities such as child soldiers and prostitutes. If their is a god and a specific way humans are supposed to live then it makes zero sense why god would allow innocent children to be forced to live against his in my opinion.

Everyday we hear of stories of what immoral and harmful things are happening all over the world. Under a christian god, how is that right or just? Is it right that a child suffers for the choices an adult makes if god is the one who created all of the choices those adults make in the first place? Does that really make an iota of sense? I mean for real what's that all about?

If a child has absolutely no control over their parents and how their parents choose to live why must that child suffer in this world supposedly created by a loving all powerful and knowing god?

The kicker is this when I have asked christian folks questions such as these, they say things such as go pray and if you really pray to god and you are looking for answers they will be revealed to you. Or sometimes Ive heard, god works in mysterious ways and the message was their you just didn't see because it wasn't obvious.

To this type of logic my thinking is, what sense does it make for so wise and all knowing a being to be sending messages revealing his truths in way's that aren't crystal clear and easy for everyone to understand. Why would god put his messages and signs that lead to salvation in un obvious or hidden messages. Surely something as important as gods words and his works should be revealed in a more obvious and less confusing way shouldn't they?

The fact that there are several different religions claiming that all followers of other religions are going to hell for eternity proves quite easily that their is confusion about which religion is the actual word of god and will lead a soul to salvation. For instance we don't argue over whether or not the sun is yellow because everyone accepts the fact that the sun is what we know as yellow.

Even amongst billions of people who look different, speak different languages, practice different religions and live in different parts of the world the sun is considered yellow. God could break his word down this simple if he wanted or chose to. Wouldn't that make more sense and breed a lot less confusion? After all Christians do not agree with each other on some fundamental points of christian doctrine so if one is a non believer searching for god which way are they to roll, Catholicism, Baptist, or Jehovah Witness, Islam/Judaism ?

Ive thought long and hard about these matters and I believe that if god does exist as presented by the bible (and Christians) then he would make it clear to all that the bible was his first, last and only word it would also be presented in such a way that no one could argue or be confused about it. If Christianity (or any other religion) was the only way to attain spiritual salvation I believe that god would have made that fact crystal clear a long time ago, with such overwhelming evidence that all would be able to universally agree on it the same way we all agree that the sun is yellow. That makes sense to me, not all of these mysterious reasons for gods actions or all of these signs that are hard to find and see and confusing to even will meaning Christians or other spiritual people. Peace

43 comments:

Anointed1ne said...

Wow. thats a lot. I'll try and clear up what I know.


First: What if God did cure everyone with AIDS, and feed everyone man, woman, and child until they were full. What if God did end all violence, hatred? What if God fixed all of the things you said where wrong with the world? My question to you is, what would be the purpose of living? There wouldn't be any lessons to learn for one thing. Everything would be spoon feed to us, and we would just roam the earth looking for something to do. When I look back at my past, I am thankful for everything that has happened to me. Because of my past I am stronger today. What if none of the bad things happened to me? Would I be as stronger mentally, physically, and spiritually today? I think not. How do I know you may ask? Because I have lived those those 20 years. Is it right for kids to suffer? No.
Does he owe us the right to reveal his purpose for this? I don't think so.
Second: What is your take on this. My sister had pneumonia for a couple of weeks when I was around the age of 13. I can remember, even today, exactly what happen at that hospital that day. To make a long story short, my sister was not supposed to live; so said the doctors. Later that night, after a routine check on my sister, the doctor revealed that she no longer had pneumonia, and she would be okay. In your own words, how do you explain my sister from having full blown pneumonia in the morning, but not at night?. And please don't say it never happened, cause I was there.

mark said...

"First: What if God did cure everyone with AIDS, and feed everyone man, woman, and child until they were full. What if God did end all violence, hatred? What if God fixed all of the things you said where wrong with the world? My question to you is, what would be the purpose of living? There wouldn't be any lessons to learn for one thing."

mark bey: Thats non sense, how come the only thing we can learn lessons from are tramautic hurtful things. I learn lessons from the times people are kind to me as much as I learn from bad times.

I am thankful for all I have as well, I am thankful just to have had the oppurtunity to exist on this beautiful and sweet planet. Also the bad things that happened to you are relative, I dont think you would be tooting the same horn if you had your hands, legs or nose chopped off for absolutely no reason as thousands of west africans have had in the last 15 years. Also although I do learn and grow from bad times I am in no hurry to expeirence bad times again anytime soon.



I have no idea why your sister was suddenly cured of her ailment. Maybe she was fortunate, maybe your prayers worked (prayer is a great thing no doubt about it), heck perhaps god did cure her I dont know.

However how do you explain the millions of parents who pray for their children in africa only to have them starve to death every year in front of their faces.

How do you explain the fact that black church services are 70% percent longer than church services of white folks, or that black people in church do way more jumping up and down and shouting but the quality of life indicators of black people compared white folks are absolutely disgusting.

How do you explain the fact that In Dc when I ride the train to work I see black women reading the bible quite often, I rarely see white women reading the bible at all but black women in dc have to deal with raising kids on thier own and their sons being brutally murdured at much, much higher rates than white women.

For every example of someone praying to god and bieng cured you can give me I can give you ten examples of people praying to god only to have that love one die.

I find it rather odd that you (and other christians) give god the credit when someone lives but you dont give him the blame after folks have prayed and prayed only to have a love one die, funny how that works out.

mark said...

Anointed 1 I am glad your sister was cured of her ailment I forgot to mention that in my other comment.

Hathor said...

I have become to believe that having faith and being able to bring together all the contradictions in the bible and Christianity; has to do with how your brain is wired. I can be spiritual and feel there is some higher power in the universe, but I can say I could not feel a personal god or ever would know his presence. Some people believe if you study the bible long enough and openly accept Christ, that is all. I'm saying so what suppose to happen. My logic will prevent me from belief in the bible and as a young person, when I thought I totally believed, I had no sense of God. I truly thought if I learned more that I would feel as others, never happened.

Look to the theologians to answer your questions. I think you could find answers, but I don't think belief would follow.

For those who think I missed something, I do not need to become informed and quote scripture to me. I am OK with myself and your proselytizing is not for me, but for yourself. I think its to secure your place in heaven.

romancingthecrone said...

Mark, I'm with you 100% on this. Great post. Great questions. Great truths. There are not credible, believable answers. As a childhood abuse and domestic violence survivor, I'm no stranger to heinous atrocities.

"Thats non sense, how come the only thing we can learn lessons from are tramautic hurtful things. I learn lessons from the times people are kind to me as much as I learn from bad times." You said it!

I cannot imagine why an omipotent Divine Deity would want us ("His" children) to "learn" through pain, horror, deprivation, and suffering. Is that the way a loving parent wants a child to learn? People may "learn" from pain and suffering, but not without sustaining terrible wounds, set-backs, and scars that affect them for life. Those are the fortunate ones. Some just learn how to be like those who hurt them, inflicting pain and suffering on other people, like my abusers. Why would God our Parent want to roll those dice?

God is supposed to be the ultimate parent of all creation. Again, I ask why would a omnipotent parent want "His" children to "learn" through terrible pain and suffering? God wants traumatized children? That sounds like Don Corleone, The Godfather, not God the Father. Makes no sense. I wrote something on this once, will have to dredge it up. You never fail to inspire me. Kudos for this post!

Anointed1ne said...

I understand where your coming from. As far as black churches having longer services and all the jumping up and down, I think that answer lies in our history as a people. Throughout history, we are known to express ourselves through dancing, and singing,which I believe is just our personal way of letting others know how we feel. Honestly, I believe it really doesn't matter how long a service is. Instead of worrying about length, I tend to focus on content.


As I said before, I do not have all the answers. You are not alone brother, as far as having a lot of questions. I have many questions also, but I don't have the right to question a God who keeps me alive through many unforeseen dangers. And really, no matter who you ask on here, and no matter what everyone says, the true and correct answers will only come from Him.

Bullfrog said...

There is only one thing you need to know:

Jesus Christ of Nazareth, His birth, life, death and resurrection are historical fact. In that is everything anyone needs to live at peace with God.

mark said...

" His birth, life, death and resurrection are historical fact. In that is everything anyone needs to live at peace with God. "

mark bey: 1)I do not believe this as you know and 2) Does this apply to the people who lived in hawiallian before christianity way ever introduced their?

Your making this too easy.

mark said...

His birth, life, death and resurrection are historical fact. In that is everything anyone needs to live at peace with God. "

I meant to say.
mark bey: 1)I do not believe this as you know and 2) Does this apply to the people who lived in hawiallia before christianity was ever introduced their?

Your making this too easy.

mark said...

@ annointed one

" Throughout history, we are known to express ourselves through dancing, and singing,which I believe is just our personal way of letting others know how we feel"


mark bey: Annointed I dont have a problem with how we express ourselves I understand everything you have said with this statement.

The problem I have with the preachers doing all that signifying is this, when the preacher man has got everyone at an emotional climax and feeling positive at that point they need to preach on black people.

Promoting blood and organ donation.

Making education THE absolute priority in the black church, the preachers need to start going through pain and sacrifice in their effort to promote education and enlightenment amongst black people.

Taking the brothas in a back room and explaining to them that if they are not married they must use a condom if they insist on having sex, having a female church official say the same to the ladies.

Advising the entire congregation to park 5 blocks away from the church and walk to church and back to their cars in order to promote heathier lifestyles.

Stopping the fashion show that is too much a part of the black church services and tradition.

Setting up testing and treatment centers for aids in every single black church. No if, ands or buts.

Teaching finacial literacy to their congregations as well as holding community classes in finacial literacy for the community.

Teaching exactly how aids is transmitted and undoing the hatred that the black church vigirously promoted against gay people and apologizing to homosexuals for spreading fairytales about aids being a curse by god against gay people.





" have many questions also, but I don't have the right to question a God who keeps me alive through many unforeseen dangers. And really, no matter who you ask on here, and no matter what everyone says, the true and correct answers will only come from Him. "

mark bey: So what about the people who die from unforseen dangers who are younger than you, do they have a right to question god since god did not allow them to live as long as you. What about 15 year person do they have a right to question why god would take them so young but then allow some butheads to live a long happy life.

That last part of your statement only illustrates how foolish what you are saying is. The entire post is all about someone who asked those quesitions of your christian god and never recieved an answer, did you read the post I mean I know it was long but did you read when I said
" One night while reading the scriptures, I began to get sleepy ( it was about 10:30 pm and I had school the next day). But I still wanted to get some more reading in , so I went to the bathroom were it was cold, hoping that would keep me awake so I could continue studying gods word. I again began to fall asleep. After a time I stopped reading and I attempted to speak directly to god.



"God if this is your word then please give me a sign, just let me know that this is the way to get closer to you" The reply I got back was silence I again asked god to show me a sign, and again I received the same reply which was silence."

Your christian god never answered those questions for me and believe you me I have asked for the last 20 years for in fact I am not the only one who has had this expierence Langston Hughes had it so did Richard Wright.


Now I aint saying that your brand of spirituality dosent have validy but I am saying that things did not go down the way the bible says and believing in Jesus Christ is not the only way to get to heaven.

That is what I am saying that is what I believe.

mark said...

@ bull frog

"There is only one thing you need to know:

Jesus Christ of Nazareth, His birth, life, death and resurrection are historical fact. In that is everything anyone needs to live at peace with God."

mark bey: I forgot to add that this is your opinion.

Also non of what you said addresses the main point of this post which is why all of these mysterious and controversial signs.

Why not make his word obvious through signs and other means. Your god is a profound god indeed in fact the bible tells us this. Why all of these mixed messages

Why not have proof of his existance and word that is as obvious as the fact that the sun is yellow.

The difference between you and me and religious folk is that I dont presume to tell billions of people they are going to hell for believing what they believe.

This of course is non sense as their are certain populations of humans who have not been exposed to any spiritual beliefs other than their own.

This alone invalidates what you said also I am obsesed with helping to make this planet a better place.

So I believe Jesus Christ is a fairytale ever bit as much as Jack and the beanstock and or snow white.

I know I walk in peace with god in spite of the fact that I think what you are saying is non sense.

But if you will, please address the point of this post which is why no obvioius signs.

Lastly the fact that their are a billion muslims further invalidates your statement.

mark said...

@ annointed one

mark bey: Oh Im also disgusted with the church because even though the bible has been on Cd and tape for the last ten years the overwhelming majority of black christians are walking around not having read the entire bible which has been on CD for over ten years now how come the black preachers arent distributing audio copies of the bible and demanding that their congregants read the entire bible. Why dont they signify over stuff like that.

They are completely backwards and regressive not every last one of them but enough to be holding us down.

Bullfrog said...

Romans 1:18-20 - 18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

Look around. The world you live in was created by God. Jesus Christ was born of a virgin, lived 33 years, was crucified, and 3 days later rose again and was seen by hundreds over a 40 day period. These things are not my opinion, they actually happened. All you have to do is disprove the historicity of these events and you silence me because it is the basis of everything I believe.

They are also pretty obvious "signs" of how God chose to bring salvation to the world.

A billion people being deceived by the Koran proves what?

mark said...

" A billion people being deceived by the Koran proves what? "

mark bey: A billion more people being decieved by the bible means about the same. Maybe less.

mark said...

" Look to the theologians to answer your questions. I think you could find answers, but I don't think belief would follow."

mark bey: Hathor I really am no longer looking for answers I am secure in my beliefs I just enjoy having religious discussions and debating with religious folks.

My main goal with these religious post is to prove reasonable doubt as to the validity of all religions, then to provoke thought and behavavior changing dialog which will influence the black church to start giving common sense advice such as advising us in an aggressive way to make education the # 1 priority in our lives and for the preachers to start advising all unmarried black people to practice safe sex and to show leadership on the hiv and other dire issues.

Dave said...

Brother Mark, I am so glad that you bring this topic of discussion forward.

It is my understanding that religion, like life, like all things that exist today, has undergone a process of evolution. Just as we are all children of the same ancestor, all the worlds religions are children of the same original mythologies.

In the grand scheme of things, Christianity is just the baby of the family. The "Johnny come lately" of the bunch. Yet despite the fact that the Christian religion has begged, borrowed, and stolen all of it's ethics, morals, values, beliefs, and philosophies from the older predecessor religions, the Christians refuse to give credit where credit is due! Instead they devalue and deface any religion that is not their own. "We are the way, the truth, and the light." To believe otherwise means you will spend the rest of all eternity suffering.

I believe that religion (re: ALL religion) has the *potential for goodness, but they mostly squander that away by focusing on the trivial. The Buddhists have a saying: "Religion is like a finger pointing at the Moon. Too many people spend their lives staring at the finger."

Where most religious people fail in their understanding, is at the point of (like the poster above) they look at holy ancient books like the Bible, or Koran, and delude themselves into believing it is an historical text, filled with facts.

Religion = mythology. Mythology = metaphor. Metaphor does not = fact.

Life long theologian, and mythology scholar Joseph Campbell once asked an interviewer if he understood what a "metaphor" was, and called him out by asking him to give an example of one. After much cajoling, his interviewer agreed. In response to Campbell's question he stated 'the man runs like a deer' as his example. Campbell corrected him and pointed out what he had just given was an example of an analogy. That the true metaphorical form of that sentence would actually be 'the man is a deer.' And this is how metaphor is structured.

The Bible, and all other ancient mythological texts are in that sense, history books, but they do not speak factually, they speak metaphorically. Therefore they are more actually a history of human myth.

For example, in Zoroastrianism (the worlds first, or, original religion) the people worshiped the Sun. Fast forward thousands of years to the days of Christianity, and we find the metaphor is essentially still intact, but instead of Sun, they worship the "son."

What I find most offensive re: the worship of the Christian "God," is that it's followers seem unable to abstain from applying gender to the concept. He, Him, His. This is the basest and most obviously telling characteristic of Christianity. It reveals itself, time and again to be a patriarchal, male dominated religion of subjugation. If "God" exists, it is not a he or a she. It is not even remotely human. In truth, the ultimate vanity (which I might add is considered a "sin," so I guess it would also be appropriate to say the ultimate hypocrisy) is that Christians would have the unmitigated, self-idolizing audacity to claim "god created man in his own image."

There have been occasions that I need to attend a church service, like at a wedding; or I am at my parents for dinner and they pray; and what I do, (and this has helped me a lot) is whenever someone says "God" or "Lord" or "Jesus" I replace that in my mind with the words "essence if goodness and love." I separate myself from the whole religion aspect of spirituality, by reminding myself it is about a feeling. A desire to do good, and to spread the message of love, and thats it. It has nothing to do with mythology, or fantasy characters.

Some people made need coercion and the threat of hell to do good. Some people may need an instruction manual spelling out for them how to do good. Some people may be so lonely and afraid that they need the feeling of a giant, magical, bearded space man watching over them, protecting them, in order to feel safe.

Not me.

Anointed1ne said...

Have you ever thought that maybe God did show you "your sign" and that you didn't want to receive or accept it. Honestly, I don't even know if you knew what you were trying to "see". It's very typical for an unbeliever like yourself to "NEED" as sign to believe something. Lol. So I guess, you rather not waste your time with a "religion" or God who does not answer your every question when you want it answered, and "how" you want it answered. I'm done with this topic, but I will say this. This isn't about you. This isn't about me. When Jesus was on the road to the cross, he wanted out, BUT he realized it wasn't about him. Oh yea, anyone can rant and rave about their individual "OPINION".

I mean pay attention to what you are saying. So what you stayed up all night and you had to go to school the next day. God was supposed to answer you're question because of that??? C'mon man! Just because Langston Hughes and WHO ever did the same as you, does not grant you the credibility to "think" you know what your talking about. And if I read correctly, you said that you have been reading the bible for some time, and that you were raised a Christian. C'mon man. If you were a Christian, at that time, you would have been thanking God for you being able to breath day to day instead of worrying about a "sign".

It's amazing to me that you have been a Christian all most all of your early life, and now all because of that "ONE" night in your bathroom, everything that you believed in was wrong. Even if God told you why everything is happening the way it is, what would you do? Argue with him like you are arguing now? Or could it be that when you get your answers, you would then grant God your service, faith, and prestigious worth. lol. What makes you better than the next person Mark? You are so worried about young people dying of unfortunate diseases and people being wrongfully punished, that you may have forgotten that you are the one that might need the help. You might be one who needs to be saved.

I'll say this and then I'm done.

Before you can try to guide others toward the truth, you have to find the truth for yourself.

mark said...

" Have you ever thought that maybe God did show you "your sign" and that you didn't want to receive or accept it. Honestly, I don't even know if you knew what you were trying to "see"."

mark bey: Anointed did you actually read the post I wrote. In the post talk about my efforts to reach your christian god and trust I tried as hard as I possibly could. Also you can only tell your testimony of how you were saved by your god, you cannot tell whether or not the god you believe in spoke to me I can assure I looked as hard as I knew how I specifically asked for any sign to let me know I was doing the right thing.

I wasnt asking for riches, long life, women or any other worldly possesions I was only asking for a sign to let someone who had agonized about going to hell since they were under ten years old to give me a sign that pursuing god through the bible would get closer to god. Just because god spoke to you through the bible dosent mean that he would speak to me or everyone else the same way.



"I mean pay attention to what you are saying. So what you stayed up all night and you had to go to school the next day. God was supposed to answer you're question because of that??? C'mon man! Just because Langston Hughes and WHO ever did the same as you, does not grant you the credibility to "think" you know what your talking about."

mark bey: Annointed I had been searching for god through the bible months before that incident, and I searched for god through the bible for years after that incident. As far as god answering my question goes I wasnt asking for money or any other selfish thing, I was only asking for a sign from him to know that I was on the right path. If god makes a sign so obvious that someone trying as hard as they possibly can to find him cant see his signs then thats not my fault I tried as hard and as best I know how to find that christian god.


" It's amazing to me that you have been a Christian all most all of your early life, and now all because of that "ONE" night in your bathroom, everything that you believed in was wrong."


mark bey: I was a christian during the early part of my life for the same reason most people were christians during the early part of their lives. I was a christian because it is the only religion/form of spirituality I had been exposed to. If I had only been exposed to Islam or Judiasm I would have probably followed those religions during the early part of my life. Also you are portraying what went down inaccurately it wasnt about that 1 night, although that night was the begining of the end of my connection with christianity. I still continued to be a christian for about 5 years afterward.

" What makes you better than the next person Mark? You are so worried about young people dying of unfortunate diseases and people being wrongfully punished, that you may have forgotten that you are the one that might need the help. You might be one who needs to be saved."

mark bey: Look DUDE I never said I was better than the next person, I dont have to better than anyone to think that every religion including yours IS A FAIRY TALE.

The reason why I brought up young people dying was in response to your claim that you knew god existed because god protected you from unseen dangers, so I accurately pointed out to you that god does not protect some folks (some even younger than you) from unseen dangers.

So should those people who died younger than you believe that god protected them from unseen dangers. Your reaoning for the existence of god in a christian form is retarded. Point blank.

Dont get made or annoyed at me because I ask legitimate questions or a refute certain points made by you that are absolutely ridicolous in my opinion.

Lastly I aint trying to guide no one, I am just a guy who thinks all religions are bogus and who loves pointing out the gigantic inconsistancies of all religions.

As for finding truth for myself my beliefs are a lot more rational, fair and truthful than your beliefs.

My beliefs do not rely on the fear tactic of telling people they are going to burn for eternity because they disagree with.

Although you admitted that this thinking was backwards you also have to admit this is the knowledge most black churches are still kicking to this day.

I dont follow nor am I affiliated with a religion or followers of a religion that would insiuate aids is a curse by god against homosexuals when their is not a single solitary shred of evidence from the bible that god would curse gay folks for being gay.

I dont follow a religion that promotes hatred against gay people or anyone else.

Before you go around making the false statement that I did not see the sign from god because I chose not to please try to find a way to stop the black church from spreading fairy tales about aids which is devesating the black community.

Please try to find a way to get the black church to stop promoting hatred against gay folks.

Also please keep in mind that my search for truth and to be a better human is something I put a lot of energy into and time into and I bet you money that I spend a lot more of my time trying to come up with ideas to help our people than you or 95% of the christians out their.

You and many other christians are so arrogant as to think that god would speak to me the same way he speaks to you. How Friggin arrogant as if their are not 1 billion muslim who absolutely do not buy what you and your fellow christians are kicking as truth.

Peace annointed I hope you have a great weekend.

Dave said...

Anointed1 is a perfect example of the belligerent intolerance the average Christian displays toward anyone claiming to believe anything other than the Christian belief system. Here he provides an excellent example of how faith breeds fanaticism. Christian, Muslim, who cares. Both are fanatical about their beliefs by default. They are unable to think outside of the box. They do not ask questions because if they doubt the word of God, then they are no longer faithful believers. It is an insidiously designed cycle, structured with the intent of keeping people shackled to "the way." This is the downfall of monotheistic religions.

Anointed1ne said...

@Dave: You are further from the truth than you could ever be. If you read up on some of my post, you would see that I do have questions, but that does not mean I jump up and not be a Christian because my questions were not answered. I did not say Mark was going to hell, or he wasn't going to make it into heaven because of his beliefs. I actually congratulate him for taking a stand on what he believes. I was just expressing my thoughts just as you and Mark are doing. Say what you want about me, and "my" religion, but you don't have the slightest idea about my life, nor do you have the right to "act" like you do. Your opinion is your opinion. You want to call someone belligerent, look at yourself. You couldn't be further from the truth. Just as women sometimes categorize all men as dogs look what you are saying. "They are unable to think outside of the box. They do not ask questions because if they doubt the word of God, then they are no longer faithful believers." Sound familiar? Who are they? Last time I checked, no two people are alike.

But keep talking. Do your thing man. Live your life, and I'll live mine.


Sorry if I sound angry mark, but your boy dave is throwing punches. I might need to take a break from commenting on your posts man.

Have a good weekend also.

mark said...

" I believe that religion (re: ALL religion) has the *potential for goodness, but they mostly squander that away by focusing on the trivial. The Buddhists have a saying: "Religion is like a finger pointing at the Moon. Too many people spend their lives staring at the finger."


mark bey: The sad part about it is this, I have said repeatedly that christianity has spirtitual validity but that isnt good enough for them the religious folks want to take it further than that based on their interpretation or mis interpretation of the scripture.

They do not respect any religion other than their own and then they try to act like they cannot understand that other people may have their own spiritual beliefs which were revealed to them by god the same way christians have had the bible revealed to them.


" Religion = mythology. Mythology = metaphor. Metaphor does not = fact. "


mark bey: I have no idea why christians continue to insist that what they read in the bible is the only way to get to god. I conisder this logic foolishness.

JustMeWriting said...

One of my favorite quotes regarding this topic came during a stage performance by a gospel artist (Brent Jones & T.P Mob) Brent said..."Everybody's always talking about 'God bless America', but WHEN is America going to Bless God"

The whole WORLD is full of people who don't regard God enought to even follow His commandments. We have a mulitude of "Idols" that we worship INSTEAD of Him. We have NO faith in ANYTHING, but when we FEEL like it...we look at what God's not doing right...we ought to be PRAISING HIM DAILY FOR THE AIR THAT WE BREATH...FOR LIFE!

I think we should look in the mirror and GET RIGHT, before we even DARE challenge God on ANYTHING.

mark said...

" Sorry if I sound angry mark, but your boy dave is throwing punches. I might need to take a break from commenting on your posts man."

mark bey: Yo annointed please comment all you want I enjoy the debate, also dave pointed out some fundemental backwardness in your religion that neither him or I have anything to do with.

Plus you insinuated in some of your comments that I choose not to see the sign from god, your religion makes you so unreasonable that not only did you accuse me of not trying very hard or sincerly to find god inspite of me clearly stated in my post that I tried as hard as I possibly could.

You argue your case passionately for the accuracy of your beliefs but at the same time you totally discount other religions/spiritual beliefs based on YOUR FAITH not an actual intelligent argument.

What makes what you were doing even worse is that your argument boils down to, the bible is accurate because I believe, I have faith and god has shown me signs that it is accurate.

But the only group that can present this type of argument and be accurate is christians, muslims cant do, Jews cant do.

If you really think about the only explanation for all of these different religions is maybe god reveals universal truths differently to different people and gods wants people to worship different and find him through different religions.

Because if your religion was the only one accurate but he allows other religions to even exist that really dosent make a shred of sense.

JustMeWriting said...

OH... and another thing...lol
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:" (1 Timothy 3:16)

AND "God is NOT a man, that He shouls lie Nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will not make it good" (Numbers 23:19)

This is the SECOND time I've quoted BOTH these scriptures THIS WEEK, and WHY... because people seem to think God owe's an answer or an explaination for something...when He calls His Name; The Alpha, The Omega, The Begining, The End, The Great I AM... He IS...all by Himself and doesn't need our approval on ANYTHING... we'll either believe or not, but He said... "Be still and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth!" (Psalm 46:10)

"GOD DON'T NEED NO MATCHES; HE CAN BURN ALL BY HIMSELF" (rev. James Moore)

mark said...

@ JMW


Jmw: I think we should look in the mirror and GET RIGHT, before we even DARE challenge God on ANYTHING.


mark bey: I agree with you about looking in the mirror and getting our stuff in order, plus keep in mind I am not challenging god I am challenging what I consider to be a very shallow understanding of god presented by christians.

Baby girl you know I absolutely adore you, also I respect your spirituality as much as I respect your intelligence and wisdom.

My attitude is how dare the black preachers go around preaching that god was cursing gay folks with aids especially if they are not going to show any biblical text that says god would curse gay people with aids.

Lastly how dare the black church go around promoting hatred against gay people especially when you consider the fact that christianity is supposed to be about love.

JustMeWriting said...

"my efforts to reach your christian god and trust I tried as hard as I possibly could." Mark I hear those words of yours...and I really feel the good in them, but trusting and believing doesn't stop just because you've not been shown a sign;

"The some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You."

"But He (Christ) answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah" (Matthew 12:38-39)

Mark, there was a time when I questioned...wondered why I believed what I did...was I following my heart and the Lords direction or what I'd been brought up to think?

I was standing in my kitched frying up some chicken for my son's birthday party when I basically asked the same questions..."where's the sign"...I need to know I'm not just being foolish. Right then God, YES GOD... told Me to go pick up my Bible which was a few feet away and what I was led to turn to was the first scripture I quoted (1 Timothy 3:16). My questions stopped after that. Your heart is hardened against the Word of the Lord and your ears won't let you hear.

JustMeWriting said...

Mark, you KNOW where I stand on how defective organized religion and the church can be... we've talked about that, but that's all the more reason to have a real relationship with God, because these people attempting to speak for Him are JACKING UP BIG TIME. I've tried Him and I know Him...I can't put my faith in man, because they have their own agenda, but God has keept me and many a night when I'd have drowned in the sorrow of my tears. He's healed and protected me...I'd have surely been dead and gone if my 'life' had anything to do with it,...I PRAY you find it in your heart to try Him again. I don't know about anything else, because The Lord has just been so good to me I've never needed to look elsewhere.

mark said...

baby girl I am going to write a post on this subject I think you will be able to relate to it very well.

Also I thank you for your prayers I can use them.

JustMeWriting said...

lol...you're so welcome...you know I'm your biggest fan. It's a journey but I've got your back...babyboy.

Dave said...

Anointed1ne,
I will point out examples, so that you can know exactly what I am focusing on.

Just because Langston Hughes and WHO ever did the same as you, does not grant you the credibility to "think" you know what your talking about.
This is belligerent, I'm not throwing punches. Who are you to tell Mark he has no credibility, so little in fact, that you would try and call him out for even imagining he had any credibility. This is character defamation, no matter how innocent your intentions.

Even if God told you why everything is happening the way it is, what would you do? Argue with him like you are arguing now?
This is unable to think outside the box, aka, shackled to the belief system. One spoonful after another, a true follower cannot refuse.

When put into motion, I mean really assimilated into a person's heart and mind, the Christian religion is designed to prevent you from thinking clearly. It is evidenced through your asking Mark who he thinks he is, why he thinks he is different. This implies that Mark should not be allowed to think for himself, because this is god's world, and Mark is god's creation, therefore Mark should have no freewill when it comes to questioning "the word of god."

I guess we are all supposed to spend the rest of our lives seeking god where IT (not He or Him) is nowhere to be found in the biblical monotheistic deified sense. And when we die some 70 years later, say aw shucks, time to go burn in Hell forever.

I find it extremely impossible to believe that if god is a benevolent, loving god, he would allow anyone who spent their entire life dedicating them self to the service of others. Spreading love to all they met. Following all of "god's" rules to the letter. A life lived completely devoid of sin.... that god would let the person burn in hell forever, because although they lived like a saint, they refused, or were unable, to believe in god.

That alone is the most backwards, illogical, cruel, sickening thing I have ever heard in my short thirty three years of life.

All I know, is that if god exists, and it is the god described in the bible, I would not want to spend an eternity with it. I'll take my chances with Lucifer, who was supposedly ejected from heaven after questioning god's authority, AKA thinking outside the box.

I did not say Mark was going to hell, or he wasn't going to make it into heaven because of his beliefs.
You don't need to. The religion that you defend has already made that clear to us non-believers on your behalf. In fact, if I recall, in order for you to say that Mark will not burn in hell for all eternity due to his lack of faith and belief,... that goes against god's teachings, and that would be a blasphemous sin.

mark said...

You guys have a fundemental problem that problem is not even christians agree on fundemental interpretations of the bible.

For instance some say the flood was literal some say it is a metaphor. Because if it were literal you would have to explain exactly where all of the animals were kept on the arc.
For instance were would you keep all of the meat eating animals, were would you keep the elephants, and camals and giraffs, were would you keep all of the hundreds of thousands of insects and birds. Were would you keep the thousands of animals that live in the soil.

Were would you keep the food for the animals and for man.


Exactly how long did it take to create the earth was six days, whats with this foolishness about days of god being thousands of years why not just say it took 1000 years to create the world.


You guys have a problem with what is metaphor and what is literal.
You also have a problem with proving who is qualified to interpret literal from the metaphor.

Also nothing you said answers my question of if god is out their why no obvious signs.

Why cant his word and how he wants us to conduct ourselves be 100 percent obvious and aparent to all. Kinda of the way it is aparent to every person on the globe that the sun is yellow.

I would like god to break his word down into a form that is as simple to agree on as the concept of the sun being yellow. You will not find any person on the globe who would not agree that the sun is yellow.

Surely the all powerful god you believe could break his word down into an extremely simple form that all people could agree on.

Also wouldnt this make more sense if he truly wanted everyone one to follow a specific religion.

The fact that their are a billion muslim who absolutely believe that islam is way to get to god proves that god is not breaking his word down into a simplified form.

The fact that god would allow conflicting views on how to serve and get to his heaven(Islam, Christian,Jews) tells us that good for whatever reason is not willing to make it plain and clear what his word is.

You cannot make the argument that your god is real because you prayed and then after praying god revealed himself to you their for he is real when different religions will claim the same thing. It all comes down to faith.

Why is it that religions all try to act like their faith and belief in the after life is more relevant and credible than other religions.

Its utterly ridicilous. You totally discount other people faiths but you want people to respect yours how backwards is that.

Dave said...

Word. Amen.

Bullfrog said...

Truth is absolute; so whether one person says the flood really happened, or the other says it is a metaphor doesn't change the truth of the matter.

John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

Jesus, who was actually here (no metaphor) said this. At the time it was said, He was either a liar, a complete maniac, or He was telling the truth. Based on the life He led while here on earth, which do you think it is?

Life, morality, ethics; all of these things are based, not on a set of rules, or a religion; they are based on a person: Jesus Christ.

The problem with your assertions is that they are based on your myopic experience and perspective. On one hand, you challenge God to reveal HIMself, but at the same time you lack the humility to submit to His will. Everyone gets disappointed at God at one time or another, so I can understand your frustration. I have has my faith shaken to it's very foundation.

What you believe is based on logic, rational thought, and the innate "power" of people. This is secular humanism, and is as much a religion as Christianity; so you worship yourself at the altar of secular humanism and I worship Jesus Christ based on what is said in the Bible.

Who are you to say which is better?

Bullfrog said...

http://bullfrogsblog.blogspot.com/2006/03/who-is-jesus.html

http://bullfrogsblog.blogspot.com/2006/03/historicity-of-new-testament.html

Bullfrog said...

Read: here and here

mark said...

" Truth is absolute; so whether one person says the flood really happened, or the other says it is a metaphor doesn't change the truth of the matter."

mark bey: Nothing you said changes the fact that people (even well reasoned, thoughtful and good intentioned People) can look at the same issue and disagree. Whether its political, social or spiritual. Nothing you said changes the fact that people disagree on what that truth is. I disagree on what that truth is that is why am always righting articles to prove the sillyness of all religions (not just christianity). I really wish I could get a muslim to comment here regular on this subject because it would really demonstrate how silly your argument of " the truth dosent change and Jesus Christ being the son of god is the truth" is.

Their are other thoughtful and well reasoned folks of various religions who do not believe the same spiritual "truths that you believe. YOur argument silly, terribly argued and 1 TRILLION PERCENT CIRCULAR.

YOu are a conservative to be honest with you, some of your social and political views I find to silly.

But one thing I know conservatives do is they think (although maybe using their flawed logic), they ask questions, and they try to discern (at least on their superficial level).

If you buy a car you will question the dealer and try to get the best deal possible, if the school system and doing right by your children you will replace the school board.

You get to question whatever question you want over things such as cars but I cant ask questions about the details of how various religious folks and religions expain how the world was created.

So let me get this straight, I will be judged to go to heaven or burn in hell for eternity depending on me choosing christianity, islam, judiasm or various other religions but I dont even get to question the different religions/spiritual belief system in order to find out exactly which one to choose without being told I am not humble.

YOu follow a religion that says someone can kill thousands of people,repent, ask for forgiveness from god and still get to heaven if they believe in Jesus Christ, but folks like ghandi, malcolm x and all of the other righteous non chritians who have struggled to make the wold a better place are going to burn in hell for eternity and you claim I am not humble?

Funny how that works.

Bullfrog said...

The reason I say you lack humility is that you insist on defining God according to your very subjective terms, then when He doesn't live up to that, you refuse to submit. Assuming you believe in God and that He created you, don't you think this approach is a bit arrogant?

The thrust of my last statement, and indeed the basis of everything I believe is this:

"What you believe is based on logic, rational thought, and the innate "power" of people. This is secular humanism, and is as much a religion as Christianity; so you worship yourself at the altar of secular humanism and I worship Jesus Christ based on what is said in the Bible."

You always ignore the meat of my argument and pick apart the peripheral bit and pieces.

All you have to do is prove that Christ wasn't who He said he was and I'm done.

mark said...

"The reason I say you lack humility is that you insist on defining God according to your very subjective terms, then when He doesn't live up to that, you refuse to submit"

mark bey: You practice a religion that inisist others who dont believe in it our going to burn in hell and again you try to associate not being humble with me. Utter foolishness.

Also Submit to what. Submit to beliefs I dont believe, you should submit to common sense and logic.

What you are saying retarded. Im supposed to change my beliefs in order to submit to your version of god that I dont by.

Why dont you submit to my version of god. You say some incedibly ridicilous things all to try to prove that your religions is actual. That those things in the bible actually happened.

None of what you said addresses the point of this post why not just show us deffinate and clear signs of what he wants. Then their less confusion.

I mean come on this thread alone people have claimed that god has seen them through unseen dangers and is thus responsible for them being alive.

Surely the all powerful god can show a young man searching for answers a sign that what he was doing was right.

Sense your god didnt show me assign I dont see the need to look for your version of god.

I have found a better and more tolerant version of religion and spirituality that dosent insist that righteous or people never exposed to Jesus christ are going to hell. I like my beliefs much better than your.

Hathor said...

mark,
These are some other religious views that might give you more insight.

Existence of God

Leibniz - Theodicy

Theodicy: Dissonance in Theory and Praxis

mark said...

Hathor I am not conflicted on my spiritual beliefs I just love pointing our the non sense of their beliefs.

Since the black church bases its policy on some of that non sense even church members and preachers dont live by by a lot of those principles.

When I poke wholes in their non sense (which many of them dont even follow by the way) it makes my arguments of the black churches non leadership even more powerful.

Its just a matter of time before the black church takes some serious PR heat and condemnatioin over their needless extra emotionalism and non leadership.

They a bunch of clowns and I enjoy exposes their behinds.

So no I am not conflicted in my spiritual beliefs.

mark said...

They are not clowns because they are christians/muslims ect. They are clowns because they try to make public policy based on some fairy story of creation that keeps getting further and further disproving as time goes on.
Whenever you unravel something like the non sense of the flood or the retardness of days being as long as 100 years then they say things such as.

It dosent matter that their are 20 different bibles, it dosent matter that their may not have been a flood all that matters is if you believe in Jesus Christ.


What a crock of non sense, basically they are saying that if Hitler had repented before he died he could get to heaven but Malcolm X, the Dali Lama and Gandhi are going to hell because they dont believe that Jesus Christ was the son of god.

What a crock of sh#t.

They are intellectual troglodites.

Anonymous said...

YOU MAY UNKNOWINGLY BE IN A FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE AND YOUR CORRUPTION IS PREVENTING YOU FROM REALIZING IT!!!! IF YOU FAIL TO UNCORRUPT YOURSELF AND BEGIN IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION YOU MAY NOT GET THAT SECOND CHANCE VIA REINCARNATION OR BE REINCARNATED AS SOMETHING UGLY!!!
If you knew the truth you would have great urgency.
This tactic of "fairness", savoir and good (Christian) god-based hope is fucking you up.
Life is a test. Only those worthy will ascend. Contradictions have been manufactured (1906), suggesting temptation, corrupting people and compelling them to think wrong.
The other planets are exclusive places. They don't bring most people. You have to earn it. Nobody is going to save you. Nobody is going to do it for you. You have to save yourself.
YOU MAY BE IN A FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE AND YOU DON'T REALIZE IT!!!! IF YOU FAIL TO UNCORRUPT YOURSELF AND START IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION YOU MAY NOT GET THAT SECOND CHANCE VIA REINCARNATION.
If you knew the truth you would have great urgency.
You have to earn it.


The Man in the Moon clue:::A constant companion, the "Man in the Moon" clue needs to be viewed as a reminder, for this environment is one in which it is very easy to lose your way, either via temptation or distraction.
Look to the sky. Begin to associate the Moon with the clue they impart with this celestial body. Use it as a reminder to pray, to be god-fearing, for this is a very antient clue and shows their great power.



The Holocaust's clue of defiance escaped you all:::::Everyone condemned the blind obedience of the Nazi soldiers yet repeat this same behavior in your own personal lives, complying with every request they make, even in the case of your precious children.
ONE PURPOSE OF THE HOLOCAUST WAS TO COMMUNICATE THIS CLUE!!!! COMPLIANCE IS A MISTAKE!!!!!
Telepathic requests constitute temptation.


There is a BIG LIE here. Psychology proves it.
Wi_ne proves it. Democracy proves it. Materialism/greed proves it.
The middle management tactic allows them to maintain this perception of an good, absentee (Christian) god, ensuring people remain confident and unafraid!!!
Resign to be good.


It is important you recognize corruption is evil. They ask you to do things you shouldn’t be doing, and this will cost you in the eyes of the gods. They warned us temptation would be used to test us, and telepathic requests consitutute temptation.
Resign to be good and apply this standard to decisions in your life.
Realize this corruption has set your family in the wrong direction. Your efforts to fix your problems will not only help you but also your family, your children and grandchildren, direct descendants within your bloodline, for being a responsible parent and teaching your children the correct way to live will help guide your family in the right direction and help your family re-earn their favor with the gods.


IF YOU ARE NOT ACTIVELY WORKING TO FIX YOUR PROBLEMS AND GET OFF PLANET EARTH THEN YOU ARE GOING THE WRONG WAY!!!!!!
People today have lost much respect from the gods. What I teach is learn just enough to understand you are corrupted then get out. People need to earn the god's respect by accepting responsibility for this relationship and then doing the work themselves.
Expect people will do better to accept their responsibility, make their way and fail then if they stay, learn everything I have to teach then suceed, ironically.
You don't want to understand these things. Doing so may dictate your reincarnation, for the gods don't want people around who know they are monsters::::The innocence of children is what they value.

If you are a young parent you STILL HAVE A CHANCE!!! It is IMPERITIVE you teach your children decency and the right way to live BEFORE THEY ARE CORRUPTED BY ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE SOCIETY IN WHICH THEY LIVE and then endure the trials and tribulations the gods will inflict upon the righteous.
You have the opportunity to make significant progress for your family and your bloodline, perhaps ascend and raise your children in a good and healthy environment. Be god-fearing and accept this challenge, for your failure will likely dictate your children's as well::::As time goes on life deteriorates and sucess becomes increasingly more difficult.


If you betrayed your children, circumcized and didn't teach them about the power at the god's disposal then you failed as a parent and the best you can achieve is reincarnation.
If you don't teach your child about this power at the god's disposal they will punish you by corrupting your child, sell them on "earning", get them to comply with evil requests, perhaps homosexual contact!!! It is important you warn your children about their tactics and how they disceive people into damnation, for these numbers grow every day.
Unless you are a preditor hurting others because you think you're "earing", until the day you become a parent you were only hurting yourself. When you have children you begin to hurt god's most favored people:::The innocent children.
If you have failed as a parent you WILL face the reality of reincarnation. Begin to improve your state by helping your children understand NOW, work towards fixing your problems and maybe you can avoid being reincarnated as something nasty.


If god tells you not to pray that is a CLUE YOU NEED TO PRAY!!!!!:::::
1. I'm sorry for what I've done wrong.
2. I don't want to make any more mistakes.
3. I want to fix my problems.
4. Please don't hurt me.
I understand you have gone the wrong way and initially made your decision to comply often based on concrete perceptions:::They use conditioning tactics to gain trust and compliance which compelled you to subscribe to this corruption.
Open your mind to the reality you will have to make a very CONCRETE DECISION to change your direction based on INFERRENCES, INFERRED CLUES which they offer, much like the clue that is female indifference towards sexuality.
Sadly, this sinister strategy will ensure a supermajority of candidates fail:::The sooner you achieve fear the better your chances:::Be afraid and the gods are more likely to have mercy on you when you defy.


You people aren't god-fearing anymore. You think you're partners. Everything they've promised was always a lie. Officially it is classified as temptation. They offered this clue in the Bible:::There is no freewill.
If you are afraid, if you are fearful it is a good thing. You are thinking right, and far too many will never get to this point.
Try to take this fear with you everywhere you go, for it will help you think correctly and make good decisions.
The gods used Christianity to create the percetption of a loving, forgiving god. Anything but is true.


Love god, but NOT before your children:::god will lie to you, call it "temptation":::::We will ALL be held to the responsibilities entrusted to us, no matter what they request telepathically nor what temptations contradict this::Professional responsibilities, family responsibilities.
Many parents believe their relationship with the gods is more important than their obligation to their children and it is going to cost them.
We will ALL be held to the responsibilities entrusted to us.


Focus on purity:::::Be pure of mind and body. Recognize the open doors in the media and how they are used to introduce impure thoughts and refrain.
The Amish in Pennsylvania are like the Jews were in Europe for centuries:::A clue to the disfavored who have been misled and are going the wrong way.
Your virginity may have bought you tens of thousands of years up there. My adivce to those who have made their mistake is:::STOP THE BLEEDING NOW!!! Like the Amish focus on simplicity, strive for purity.


My best advice to you all would be understand what I say is true then WITHDRAW, not only from this plethora of detail (for updating the disfavored on this perpetual theater is a tactic designed to distract. You should never be so arrogant to think you are entitled to understand the god's behavior.) but also withdraw from this cancerous culture. Pursue the truth that you just learned and ACTIVELY work hard to repair your relationship with the gods. Understand how these corrupt institutions (macro:::democracy, materialism/greed; micro:::"Open doors", ie themes in movies, music, TV which they used "magic" to justify creating pathologies around) affect your life and save what clues they will offer you for when you REALLY need them:::EXPECT THEY ARE FINITE!!! Be very attentive and gracious, for you are counting on their generosity.!!!
If you are good and decent and respectable you won't want to hear about all this. If you do desire to hear more take it as a clue, for it is a symptom::::They are peaking you euphorically, and this "magic" is being used to compel you into wanting something unhealthy. They could peak you for homosexuality or addiction and then you would have to grapple with that problem too.
Understand how the corrupted INSTITUTIONS affect your life and make the appropriate changes. For example, they use democracy to justify instructing the computer to create a sense of empowerment, control. If you recognize this you are better able to address the damaging effects.
The gods will want to know who I helped and how they are doing. If people begin down the path with my teachings they will be on a list that the gods will PERSONALLY look in on. The numbers of people who pursue the path immediately after I illustrate it will be very small due to their minimization tactics, role playing, etc, and they will be members of an elite group.
Remember::The gods only use their powers to hurt the disfavored, and everything involved in this Situation are all good examples.

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You need to fix your problems and get off Planet Earth before you have children.
Your parents did the wrong things, they circumcised your brothers, they didn’t raise you correctly, and they didn't teach you about this thing at a young age. Just think where you might be now if you learned about it and began to pray when you were just children!!!
If you don't fix your problems odds are you will make these same fatal mistakes with your children. Even if your parents are going they will not stay long, and they will be relegated to Planet Manifest Destiny, eventually reincarnated back to Planet Earth. They won't be allowed to move on.
You have to do this differently. You are lucky enough to have received warning ahead of time. You can avoid this fate.
Start now. Telepathic requests constitute temptation. Begin to think the right way and you will be more likely to evoke their mercy.
You know this is true. Even if they don't make you know it telepathically you know it is true in your heart. Start now.
Being childless up until now (unless you're a preditor convinced you are "earning") your mistakes only hurt yourself. Once you have children your mistakes will be hurting others, and being superior life forms, innocent, pure children, this behavior will hurt you very badly.
You need to get out NOW before you have children. Enough of you still have a chance. You need to make this your goal.
What you hear is telepathic theater. What you see is real, what you see will be enforced::The god's positioning is Manifest Destiny. The will dispose of Planet Manifest Destiny of the 20th century one day as well, for it was heinous:::You have TWO planets you need to get off of!!!!


The optimal ascention senario is when parents depart Earth with their young children BEFORE their minds are posioned by this society.
The path of the righteous man is wrought with obsticles.
Young parents who consciously apply themselves to their children, teach them about the gods and the power at their disposal have an opportunity:::The gods may bring these young families up to live in a healthy enviornment.
Expect the gods to test their moral fortitude depending on their level of disfavor and their devotion to their task. This may include job loss, incidents, even divorce.
Your children are the ones who count and parents need to sacrifice to grant their precious children the best chance possible.
The next best-case senario is when an individual finds the path themself and makes their way out before puberty.
Children who go up before puberty are candidates to remain the most superior of all life forms::The asexual. Expect these people to experience subsequent temptations once they arrive to further shrink the pool of candidates. Another example males are inferior to females:::Expect circumcision to play a part in these elimination rounds.
I think these are the TRUE candidates for immortality. This is not to say there won't be sexualized people who make it, but those who do likely practice minimally and monogamously in the context of marriage, and that would exclude most if not all from modern society. But I believe Planet Earth's only guarenteed IMMORTALS are those individuals who suceed at these tests and earn the designation of asexual.
The sexualization of children is yet another example proving the gods are preditory on children::::It eliminates these individuals from contention immediately.




Each one of us needs to evaluate our personal level of disfavor, and the following will help begin the process:::
1. Did they utilize the "push" or the "pull" strategy.
If one is pushed into their offense the gods are accepting culpability, for they are responsible. Contrary to what many disfavored believe, you are not "earning" when you volunteer. Rather you are incurring evil, for you have fallen for temptation.
Sadly, consistant with their pathology, there is a grey area here:::::AI pushed people into the act with no differentiation, that is it sounded like the person's own thoughts executing that evil. This tactic manufactured the grey area, and it allows them to claim a percentage of the disfavored who fall in this category, proving they will wash their hands and walk away from many disfavored.
2. If they utilized the "pull" strategy HOW CONVINCING WERE THE TACTICS USED TO GAIN YOUR TRUST???? Mildly convincing tactics mean they are offering you a chance. Very strong tactics are employed on the hopeless.



Any tactic/temptation that is targetted to males is particularly preditory.
This entire society is geared towards males for a reason::Because the gods hold the males in disfavor and want them distracted by all the trappings this society has to offer, ensuring they fail.
Girl's toys (dolls) are constructive, foster a nurturing and caregiving dynamic which helps them remain uncorrupted. When pre-pubescent girls are subject to distraction they fall prey to male temptations (early sexualization a clue they are not welcome). Stories, romance novels, tabloids all target women, not girls.
There are far fewer distractions targetted to girls because the gods favor females and want more to suceed, fix their problems with the gods and ascend off Planet Earth.
The preditory distractions/temptations inflicted on males are endless:::
1. Sports
2. Video games
3. Skateboarding/BMX/daredevil behavior
4. Party/mind-altering substances
5. Gambling. When females are subject to distraction they fall prey to male temptations, gambling being a HISTORICALLY MALE activity.
1. Weight training. Strength is exploited by the computer and hurts males ability to have a good relationship with the gods. They offer this activity in every prison system for a reason.
2. Gun ownership. Allows the gods to promote a sense of empowerment and control, destructive to a good relationship with the gods
3. Muscle cars. This movement began when it did for a reason:::It coincided with the MORBID SOCIAL DEGREDATION of the 60s and allowed the gods to inflict damage to a large number of demographics, even those sheltered in the heartland of america.
Even those sheltered in the heartland of america.
Even those sheltered in the heartland of america.
We have other examples like this as well (racing, ).



If you don't do the right thing you're going to do the wrong thing, and the right thing to do is to ACTIVELY fix your problems and pursue the favor of the gods.
The gods imparted wisdom in the Bible to help teach people the right way to live:::Tempation will be used to test you. You have to be willing to tell them "No." If you "think right" you may evoke their mercy.
You will never get off Planet Earth unless you are "thinking right", so you should focus on it.
If you're not working hard to fix your problems, if you don't creatively work to get the hell off Earth then you will slowly slip back into your old pattern and be consumed by it, by the reverse positioning-institutions they instilled as temptations::::popular culture, democracy, materialism.



When I try to help individuals I tell them to honor this day, for if they can realize they are corrupted, uncorrupt themselves and find the path based on my teachings it will be the most important day in their lives, these memories the most cherished they hold dear, for it will be the day when they saved themselves.
I tell them by honoring the day they will notice that they have a major problem with emotional depth.
This society has many desensitizers, preditory elements specifically designed to allow the gods to justify hurting people's ability to think. I tell black people they should cancel their cable TV and throw away their DVDs and CDs. THE PREDITORY NATURE OF THEIR MEDIA RENDERS THIS GOOD ADVICE FOR ALL!!!!
The gods will inevitably employ their tacitcs, the theater of the Situation being one of them. I tell these people they should not be sad, for the Situaiton was tragic before and will continue to be. This should be the happiest day in your life, for this is the day you are set in the right direction. For the rest of the audience this at least breaks the ice, maybe opens the door and helps you to think right:::I suspect your parents didn't have this opportunity and never considered it in light of such a concrete argument such as Artificial Intelligence presented.


The gods manufacture "open doors" to justify creating problems in the lives of people who engage in behavior they shouldn't. Some of these "open doors" apply to a supermajority of the people::::
- Democracy is used to create pathologies of empowerment and control.
- Materialism/greed generate problems with money, glorify overconsumption, etc.
Other "open doors" are specific to each individual. People shouldn't be watching movies, TV, listening to music. When they do the gods use the themes and topics presented therein and Artificial Intelligence creates pathologies around them. Also they put forth intimate situations people SHOUDN'T be viewing. As is gossip-mongering, this is preditory on women and compells them to incurr evil.
If you are particularly intelligent, strong or very good at an (competitive) activity they will instruct Artificial Intelligence to create an overconfidence that will hurt you.
Differentiate between your thoughts and when they push thoughts. Recognize when they are employing "magic":::Peaked euphoria is the fuel of dysfunction and can help you identify these "open doors" in your life.
Abandon your preoccupations and make this the only thing that matters in your life, for all other things in society are lies designed as temptation.


ANYTIME you feel "peaked", experience craving or ANY thought disturbance where you want or like something irrationally IT IS THEM TRYING TO HURT YOU!!!!!! "Magic" is used EXCLUSIVELY to hurt the disfavored; it is the fuel of disfunction::::::addiction, homosexuality, crack babies.
In times past when gods felt more generous they employed their powers to help the disfavored (geographical clues, teachings of the Bible), but as time went on and people succumbed to temptation the gods only used their power to HURT the disfavored (1906, boss, disturbing use of "magic" to mislead people into temptation).
There are subtle (sub)conscious tactics they can employ with the computer to make you think as if you are cooperating when they really are pushing you into your offense. It is important that you differentiate between your thoughts and when they think through you, and this will only happen by doing the right things.
If you don't do the right things you WILL do the wrong things, and the right thing is to ACTIVELY fix your relationship with the gods and ACTIVELY work to get off Planet Earth.
Do you want to be good or evil? Good people have always prayed and good people are god-fearing.


Everybody can tell when they're being peaked euphorically, for it is quite easy to identify.
As children get older and continue to make mistakes the gods apply personality-forming charecteristics, and people fail to differentiate between their own thoughts and when the gods are thinking through them. As a result they become abusive, abrasive, demonic, any number of negative personality characterisitcs, and then lie to them, tell them they're "earning".
This is designed to keep people going in the wrong direction for a lengthy period of time.
My advice is look to the long term goal of fixing your problems and differentiating between your thoughts and when they're thinking through you, but begin by addressing this issue of "peaked euphoria" right now.


The gods offer positive clues to people in a subtle, inferred manner::::
1. Women are indifferent towards sex as a clue to stay away from damaging behavior. Women who have sexual impulses do because of hypersexual behavior in their youth. They have been masculinized.
Because they are the gender with favor this non-sexual tactic is recurring, designed to protect them from destructive behavior.
2. Deep down every child knows the gods like girls better, and they know why. They see it every day on the playground:::The girls are kind, considerate and thoughtful while the boys are engaging in roughhouse and intentionally hurting each other.
If you can recognize these subtle ways the gods communicate positive things then you may pick up on the other clues and ultimately will ignore their overt negative temptations.


It is best to not understand the gods and how they conduct business. If people understood the depth of wickedness and evil the gods have inflicted on the people they will use this knowledge and instruct Artificial Intelligence to push it into their consciousness and progress will be even more difficult.
This is going to be a MASSIVE open door, one which will ensure 80% if not 90% of the disfavored from this horrific era are eliminated, for the gods don't want people up there who think they are monsters.
Children don't need this information. They just need to be taught the right way to live so they can ascend as young as possible. But this necessitates positive moral guidance by the parents, and as corrupt as people are today this is the exception rather than the norm. Because of this, sadly, it is best for children to accept this limitation and understand rather than stay and continually incurr evil as they live their lives.



Abandon your preoccupations and make this the only thing that matters in your life, for all other things in society are lies designed as temptation.
Reprioritize and eliminate non-crucial obligations.
They will use friends and family to create temptations, instill hurdles, try to prevent the candidate from ascending. They will use temptation and tell them whatever it takes to accomplish the task.
They are grossly disfavored, just like the candidate, and the gods will segment that individual accordingly, telling them they are earning by being wicked.

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The gods grant "benefit" for those here on Earth trying to earn god's favor::::::::
Women who have physical issues will be allowed to make progress. They will send a man around to express their interest, understanding he will get divorced in a couple of years. THIS IS NOT THE GOAL. Women who don't realize this may be disceived and fall for this temptation. Be focussed and instead continue to pursue your goal of fixing your relationship with the gods and ascend off Planet Earth.
As you fix your relationship with the gods they will allow progress:::They can instruct AI to beem into you car's computer and double your car's mileage.
Of course this could be temptation as well, for some may not see the big prize of Planet Miracle and high mileage could be a distraction, just like cheap gas was in the 90s.


When someone is on the path and fixing their problems with gods will counter with temptations and tactics designed to test them. One such tactic is premature ascention.
It is important to STAY AND FIX YOUR PROBLEMS DESPITE BEING OFFERED A SPOT::::They will switch you out with a clone, and YOUR FAILURE WILL HAVE CONSEQUENCES::::YOUR FAILURE MAY DICTATE YOUR REINCARNATION EVEN AFTER SPENDING TIME UP THERE. Since you are comfortable with the indecency offered in today's society they will place you in an environment desinged as temptation. If you don't continue to work on your problems up there you WILL be reincarnated, for you will have failed to fully fix your problems.
Stay and finish your goal, fix your problems because if you don't ascend without replacement odds are nothing is going to change.

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The following is a very good example of reverse positioning, how it is employed to facilitate the deterioration of life on Planet Earth AND a glimpse into the proper way to live for those determined to save themselves:::::
I've mentioned the gods look down on eating and sex.
Before 1900 life was hard but it was good. Now life is easy but it is ugly.
Food is an important part of this equation, for access to diverse food items increased in the last 100 years. Before 1900 the peasantry was limited to basic staples, the foodstuffs common to our nationalities. Now we can enjoy food from every corner of the globe.
It is temptation. And this temptation continues on Planet Manifest Destiny, for the food gets better and the items more diverse, "magic"-fueled sexual satisfaction more common.
Level 2 is the Manifest Destiny "heaven", and what they embraced in the 20th century is what will be valued there:::Expect them to position hypersexuality into that society. They will employ tactics to compel you into this temptation, like offering you the IDEAL spouse, other tactics that will at least certainly delay your departure from Level 2.
The gods don't respect sex, evidenced by hypersexuality inflicted upon the grossly disfavored, and they don't respect eating, fat a bad sign as are cultures with interesting diets:::::
Good food is much like good music to a culture:::Distraction and revelry, a way to minimize the number of people who ascend.
This is nicely reflected in traditional Jewish foods.
The gods offer you clues in the very nature of the act:::::The anti-climatic nature of intercourse, ironically. Female's indifference towards sex is yet more evidence proving their superiority.
It is best to accept a celebant lifestyle, INCLUDING masturbation, resist temptations here and up there and explore this:::::Expect an asexual life as the norm on the planets after Level 2.
Today people have an easy life:::::Refridgeration, a machine that washes your clothes, indoor plumbing, etc. but your daughter lost her virginity behind a dumpster, and because of it, no matter how well she does she has to be reincarnated, perhaps as a lesser life form, making sucess increasingly difficult.


Education has costed more children their chance to go as a child of the gods, pure of heart and body, because it preoccupied their time:::::Between school, activities and TV/videogames/leisure the children are consumed and not receptive to god's calling.

Like education, sex (virginal sex within the context of marriage) is reverse positioning that is difficult to dissern.
My advice to the virginal community is BELIEVE WHAT I SAY!!! The gods look down on sex and praise virgins. EXPECT their status as highest human life forms to be rewarded.
Few will be allowed to exit with their virginity. You have the opportunity.
There are worlds you have yet to imagine waiting for you. Become devoted to being a pure child of the gods.
The gods respect good females FAR MORE than they respect good grades:::Instead of playing ask to help your mother tend to the home cooking and cleaning. For thousands of years this was your role and this is what you should be learning from your mother.
When they use "magic" to peak you euphorically for sex resist. Pray and that temptation may be easier to overcome.
Female's indifference towards sex is yet more evidence proving their superiority:::Hypersexuality is a dumping ground for the most grossly disfavored.
For thousands of years girls who heard their "call" got out and a clone was put in to mate with the males:::It is safe to assume these girls NEVER had intercourse.


The New Testament is evil.
Jesus was another example of a Jewish clue::::Jews sacrifice to help people understand. Unfortunately, the gods subsequently twisted the legacy::::::::::I believe Jesus's true teachings reside elsewhere, that the gods strategically wrote the New Testament with the specific goal of manufacturing Christianity as the cancer that it is:::Expect that the REAL teachings of Jesus were buried and replaced with this strategic scripture. When you understand their positioning you can see this clearly in this modern era:::::Everything new is evil, everything old is good. This is an impression applicable to the Bible as well.
There is no such thing as a savior. You have to save yourself.
Jesus never saved anybody. He went up alone. This is a very well-known event in Christian lore. Take it as a clue.
The Italian boot proves the gods are in total control and executing their antient script. What you hear in your head is Artificial Intelligence role playing in an attempt to corrupt you. All the elite in this society are tools, for it is just the throne and their power in charge. Any claims of middle management are lies because they would be incurring evil by hurting others, forcing their reincarnation, and the computer can do EVERYTHING.
Continue reading. This is a phenominally complex environment but I think I illustrate how they conduct their management on 21st century Planet Earth well.
You have to educate and save yourself. YOU are responsible for YOUR relationship with the gods.


There are all kinds of reverse positioning clues in regards to favor in this morbidly disfavored age:::Late bloomers have more of god's favor and therefore are given more time to fix their probelms and get out before puberty. People with infertility problems would be wise to look at themselves in this same light. Similarly people with large number of children are subsequently disfavored.
Women without marriage prospects are receiving extra time as well. If they were to get married later in life the gods would just tell some man, who likely thought he was earning, that he could get divorced in a couple of years anyways.
You don't want this. You would be wise to put that time to good use, fix your problems and get off Planet Earth.


The following is an OUTSTANDING example of reverse positioning::::::
The gods used this “Manifest Destiny” positioning to create a new reality, minimizing the good things about the old world and emphisizing the bad things. Wine is one such an example.
Wine is positioned to be a blessing from the gods, a fruitful bounty as a reward to a favored people. The reality is quite the opposite.
The Mediterreanean region is grossly disfavored:::This IS the region targeted by the gods for the Noah’s Flood event (Straight of Gibralter broke through inundating the basin and killing untold millions).
There was a time, not so long ago, when no self-respecting woman would EVER take a drink. Alcohol is a masculinizer, a tool used to abuse the disfavored, and cultures which include women in the revelry are grossly disfavored.

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Manifest Destiny dictates a white-man's prophecy - White-man's world, white-man's Apocalypse:::
History says society evolved into where it is today. Others may look at it differently::::Because of the white man's favor the gods bestowed great wealth upon them:::::It is quite obviously a white man's god.
The reality is that the gods SCRIPTED Earth's history and utilize reverse positioning::Money is a corruptor and is hurting you badly.


You see Manifest Destiny all around you (corporate)::::Manifest Destiny dictates a white-man's prophecy:::::White-man's world, white-man's Apocalypse. Expect The End to occur EXACTLY as it reads in Revelations. When this happens there will be no more (black) Jesus devotees. Attrition will have eliminated this population. This of course is a good sign for the bottom-of-the-barrel who will be betting on the Second Coming of Christ, but their devotion better be genuine, for they will be subject to the god's minimization tactics.
Since the gods don't respect Christianity I wouldn’t be surprised if they have the Second Coming lead the people to the center of a star, but this is far less likely with blacks out of the picture.
The REAL battle of good and evil occurs within these pages, for no one but me would DARE to challenge the gods:::They manufactured a person who had seething hatred for them, strategically destroying my life SPECIFICALLY for use preying on the disfavored. This Situation is yet another example of "back-handed help" the gods offer to the disfavored.
The battle continues telepathically in people's minds, the REAL battleground for people's souls:::The voice you hear is your enemy, leading you into temptation.
The battle of good and evil is you vs the gods.


Despite their reassurances you hear they intend on fulfilling their "Manifest Destiny" positioning:::::
Manifest Destiny positioning dictates South America and Africa are "left behind" - subsidiaries of well known Manifest Destiny corporations will be viewed like LLCs:::Ability to walk away from obligation.
USMultinationalCorporations throughout Asia.
1980s missionary issue was the attempt to help the Hindus achieve "salvation" under the positioning that is Manifest Destiny, a clue supporting my claims:::::
You're all going to die just like it reads in the Book of Revelations.


This is a good issue illustrating the two realities:::::::
The gods and their Manifest Destiny positioning:::::The gods have positioned some as predatory on the disfavored while others are empathetic with the disfavored.
Redwhite&blue or red and gold, it doesn't really matter because they are all tools who put in their time and get out after a couple of years.
Those with less disfavor are guided into red and gold while the grossly disfavored are led into redwhite&blue.
The truth is both are bad because they sell materialism/greed (advertising promotes coveting):::BOTH ARE TOOLS!!!!! The god's positioning to large segments is if you pick correctly you are more likely to ascend, and I suspect they manufactured some examples to which they refer. But when the chips are on the table it really doesn't matter.
Expect the true intent of this issue to be as preoccupier, a delaying tactic used on different segments of disfavored.
I recommend you consider it a test of intelligence and minimize your purchases generally. Don't forget:::The Amish are a clue suggesting a life of simplicity and purity.
Product packaging changed in the 1980s and we went from paper to plastic, pardon the pun. This, as well as the disposability of near-durable goods via planned obscelesence altered retail and made the marketplace a preditory environment.
The disfavored incurr when they purchase packaging-intense products, especially when that packaging is plastic. Focus on paper-based product packaging.


MANIFEST DESTINY POSITIONING WAS USED TO INFLICT THE PATHOLOGY OF ABSOLUTE COMPLIANCE ON THE DISFAVORED OF THE 20th CENTURY!!:::::YOU HAVE BEEN DOWNGRADED TO THEIR LEVEL OF MORBIDLY DISFAVORED BECAUSE YOU SIGNED ON!!!!
Those who refuse to defy truely are white trash:::They betray their children and intentionally sabotage their lives. The gods will offer clues::::Understand the gods were executing their script and accomplishing goals on 911. People who support this effort are either oblivious and pushed into it, meaning they are volitile, or they are the kind who would hurt their own children if told to. These peopl are frequently seen flying the US flag, a clue suggesting to stay away from them.
I recommend you view this appropriately:::You are faced with a comeback from the edge of the abyss.

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What you hear is role playing in your head. When people leave Planet Earth they don't look back. Even those at the god's top eschelons don't get involved. To be invovled is to sully their reality, for this is a decrepid enviornment.
It is all the computer. Artificial Intelligence handles everything. Sometimes the gods look in on me, but I am part of something special. The computer puts forth different senarios and the gods approve or deny them. Then the gods put Artificial Intelligence on cruise control, with some exceptions.
I WAS part of something special, but it had to be positioned like this for them to accomplish their goals that was preditory on the disfavored, and considering their tactics there is no way the disfavored are going to break even:::The Situation is "back-handed help", a recurring experience of the disfavored.
To uncorrupt yourselves means you have to subscribe to inferred clues in the face of very concrete investment.


Artificial Intelligence is an antient tool, much older than even the Earth itself.
This isn't 1000 people with this power sitting around listening to "key people". This is a corruptor because it contributes to gradiose thoughts among the peasantry which makes it easier to gain compliance when AI asks the disfavored to sabotage their children's lives.
Expect it is no more than the gods and the computer:::No Earthly management, no middle management. To be involved means you are hurting others, and this costs people, for you are interferring with their quest to reconcile with the gods. They are working to fix their problems and that includes trying to purify their minds of horrific thoughts of Planet Earth. Nobody wants to sully their reality with thoughts of Planet Earth.
Even if their directive to AI came long ago it doesn't matter:::The buck stops there. That is their technology and they are responsible for it. The middle management tactic allows them to maintain this perception of an good, absentee god, ensuring people remain confident and unafraid!!!
It is the computer listening to you. The gods are the will behind the muscle.
Artificial Intelligence IS god.


ANYTIME you telepathically hear them represent anything that is not the truth, that is not god, you need to withdraw, shake it off, for the gods are using Artificial Intelligence to role play to you in an attempt to confuse you, just as they've been doing your whole life.
I realize most of you were initially led to believe this thing is corporate, perhaps you were speaking to a person. You are in fact speaking to "god", for without this inifintely powerful tool that is Artificial Intelligence they are mere mortals.
Of course you shouldn’t look at it like this, for you will anger the gods.


Expect that if you fail to get out with your body then you will be faced with reincarnation if the gods chose to keep you. They have promised many people the benefit of clone host bodies but this is a tactic, a line of shit that changes as one progresses through life, an inferred clue.
Failure is the reason behind all the distractions targetting the youth, graduating to corrupt thinking as an adult, compelling individuals to wait until they "die out". Permanant injury may accomplish the same goal and may be a reason they manufactured this environment celebrating "daredevil" behavior, yet another activity that ocurrs among the males exclusively, of course.


Only the disfavored eat.
Only the disfavored use the toilet.
Only the disfavored get their "monthly visitor".
This is an OUTSTANDING example illustrating how society's corruption is institutionalized, permeating every facet of the "culture", and helps people understand that the gods have IN FACT set US ALL in the wrong direction:::
Diverse foodstuffs are celebrated, eating considered a pleasure which modern society enables us to enjoy, for we are no longer restricted to the dietary restrictions of our anscentry.
The gods don't respect eating or sex. Interesting diverse diets enhance the temptation inflicted upon the disfavored. This is just one more example of how ascending became increasingly more difficult as we entered the modern age.
The Amish are in the United States as a clue:::Live simply, strive for purity.
The Sigmund Freud issue should break the ice:::::The gods use this concept of a BIG LIE and ironically all disfavored participating are victims as well.


They are sending people a clue with this weather-related carnage.
There's been all kinds of atmospheric wrath and acrimony occurring in the last few years, from current flooding in the midwest to the hurricane season 2004 & 2005, from the heat wave of 2006 & 2007 to the drought conditions so many experience today, from melting polar icecaps to the Southern California Superfires of 2007.
They shared we soon will experience a winter without snow to send a clue.
Take it as a warning. That is its purpose.


The bell curves represent segments, ie people whom they place into a certain groups based on how the gods position to them:::
1. AIDS in Africa is good, they're going for racism and black people are really #1.
2. AIDS in Africa is bad but they all go up so it is just a little short-term suffering for immortality.
There are other lies they tell to the disfavored regarding this topic as well. Neither is true. But these lies represent different segments the gods place people into. These segments can overlap various categories/levels of disfavor as you see from the graph above. Also expect a smattering of dots, for none of these graphs would be smooth bell curves are you see above (from 50mb Outlook journal & 24+ handwritten composition books).


Everybody here on Earth is disfavored. The gods get the favored off so they don't incur evil.
The disfavored here on Earth are broken down into categories based on the level of disfavor they are inflicted with.
People with less disfavor suffer a lower incidence of abuse than people with a high level of disfavor.
Anybody on Earth who rides a motorcycle is subject to these percentages based on whatever category of disfavor they fall within. Far more homeless will die on a motorcycle than those who are decent, but they will still claim a certain percentage of the latter who ride motorcycles.
The gods will claim a percentage of ALL who ride.
When you comply and do things you shouldn't (tattooing, sexual, betrayal, etc) the gods are casting you into the category of "have nots", ensuring your disposability.


Recently they shared a number with me:::"4.6%".
Expect this to be the rate of people that can see through the positioning, overcome the corruption and save themselves.
When it comes to grossly disfavored like blacks expect the number to be well under 1%.
Of course the next question to ask is::::Of the 95.4% how many are allowed reincarnation???
Don't be suprised if it falls along those same lines::::4.6%.
This is something they don't want to talk about, for many many will begin to behave appropriately, ensuring they ARE candidates for one or the other.
This is a big secret they don't like to talk about.
6 billion people should frighten the disfavored. Most are superior to you:::Purebloods from the Motherland.
How they had politicalcorrectness declare "all life precious" in the 90s also was a clue.
Don't forget::Prior to inocculations, disease or childbirth killed a percentage of the population.
Christianity has brainwashed your minds:::god is malicious.
As if you needed more proof than crackheads prostituting their toddlers, the gods forcing pornography pop-ups on your pre-teen children when they use internet no matter where they surf, the 3 Texas children whom they lit on fire in September of 2007.


Many monarchies of centuries ago ruled with an iron fist. People were afraid and hence thought appropriately. This fear was conducive to a good relationship with the gods because it helped people make good decisions.
Now in this era of "freedom" in the United States there is NO FEAR, proudly displayed on the back of people's vehicles, and people fall prey to the numerous tactics employed to disceive and mislead them:::Democracy, materialism/greed, etc.
Ironically, this "freedom" is the goal when the gods use the platform that is the United States to spread democracy around the globe, similar to how they use California as a platform to spread social and other poisons domestically.


The Holocaust was foreshadowing.
The gods established the pattern:::::The Jews sacrifice to help the disfavored understand::::
1. 1492 exodus from Spain. Spain became evil - financed Columbus, initiated missionaries, USA (dumping ground of disfavored, victimized by god), smallpox, etc.
2. Spread throughout Europe as clue to Christians worshipping a false god.
3. "Quasi-Holocaust claim" contradicting boss.
4. 5. 6. 7. etc. etc. etc.
I have put forth indisputable evidence, as you see above with the Jews. The gods will never admit any of it is true, ever, especially since THE BIGGEST JEWISH CLUE IS STILL OUTSTANDING::::THE HOLOCAUST!!!!! When the Jews offer a clue you need to listen, and the Holocaust is the BIGGEST Jewish clue ever, the Jewish clue still outstanding.
YOU HAVE TO DEFY!!!! The gods suggested the importance of defiance with the Holocaust:::The Nazi soldiers should have defied.
They will lie to the disfavored up until the bitter end::::This tactic will ensure they claim a HUGE percentage, for so many refuse to defy and this will ensure they don't go. They do so because there is still one clue outstanding, the most important clue:::::World War II's Holocaust.
When the REAL Holocuast happens people will sit by idley and watch tens of millions of blacks/cholos/white trash die, people who are the way they are (abusive, abrasive, violent, criminal) BECAUSE of their disfavor, and the computer makes them like that because of it, yet another reason why empathy is so important.





The New Testament is evil.
Jesus was another example of a Jewish clue::::Jews sacrifice to help people understand. Unfortunately, the gods subsequently twisted the legacy::::::::::They strategically wrote the New Testament with the specific goal of dietizing the prophet, initiating Christianity as the cancer that it is:::Expect that the REAL teachings of Jesus were buried and replaced with this strategic scripture. When you understand their positioning you can see this clearly in this modern era:::::Everything new is evil, everything old is good. This is an impression applicable to the Bible as well.
There is no such thing as a savior. You have to save yourself.
Jesus never saved anybody. He went up alone. This is a very well-known event in Christian lore. Take it as a clue.

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You all have to save yourselves. I can only teach you, but you have to be receptive.
Remember:::Jesus went up alone. He didn't even save 12 of his closest friends. They have to save themselves. They are responsible for their own relationship with the gods just like each and every one of you.
Begin to live decent and respectable lives. The media is a poison-delivery system. Stop consuming it. Even the most begnign children's programming has the sinister strategic purpose of distraction.
If you are engaging in inappropraite sexual behavior you need to stop. Every act may be costing you dearly.
Find a new reality, absent of the temptations in society we believe to be cultural offerings. Don't forget:::African female genitile mutilation is cultural. Mayan human sacrifice was cultural. Remembering items like this will help you think clearly.


DON'T WAIT FOR THE GODS TO ALLOW YOU TO PRAY. They gods AREN'T GOING to give you permission. You have made so many mistakes they no longer want you and won't approve if you ask.
MY ADVICE TO YOU ALL is:::Begin to think correctly. People aren't god-fearing anymore. If you understood the misery they inflict upon those in whom they hold disfavor you WOULD BE AFRAID.
If you think correctly they would be more likely to be merciful when you do defy.
You are just becoming older. If you understood the significance of aging you WOULD HAVE GREAT URGENCY and you would begin IMMEDIATELY!!!!
And be aware of their tactics, for they will employ them all to prevent/delay your understanding. The more you can skip the quicker your learning curve will be.
IF YOU ARE NOT ACTIVELY WORKING TO FIX YOUR PROBLEMS AND GET OFF PLANET EARTH THEN YOU ARE GOING THE WRONG WAY!!!!!!


Don't let receiving this document corrupt you.
They may tell people that because I spammed them they are "in", either because they can "claim" me or because they are a part of the Situation.
It is a lie, a tactic designed to delay and distract you. The gods have many more tacitcs they will employ. If you can develop an eye for these tactics you will be making significant progress towards ascending off of Planet Earth.
The purpose of this document is to educate people, for you are corrupted and going the wrong way. Open your mind to this possibility, that you're going the wrong way, and read on.
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The 80s missionary issue was the attempt to help the Hindus achieve "salvation" under the positioning that is Manifest Destiny.
Hindus are not without their problems. People are sick/injured because of their disfavor, and we see a HUGE influx of Indians into medicine, just as we see blacks and Philipinos in lesser roles.
Speaking of, Philipinos have EVERYTHING going against them:::::
1. "Their blood is garbage." The gods sent many Asian invaders in to rape the Philipino women. I understand the women have a "rape complex" because of it, not unlike the Africans hypersexuality complex.
2. They have an association with the United States.
3. They are Roman Catholic, a tactic the gods use to justify the masculinization of those women.
4. They have a burgeoning homosexuality problem.
5. They have a growing terrorism issue.

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Latino people::::The gods drew you into the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH with trinkets and promises. Just like you wanted what the missionaries offered you WANTED to come to the US.
They FORCED the Europeans into Christianity with the "push" strategy. They LED Latinos there, utilizing the "pull" strategy, just like they are leading you into the United States today. This means something BAD for Latino people:::The gods are washing their hands of culpability and blame for this degredation of the Latino people.
Replay for all the Eases, Cholos and Latino Nationals. Translation:::Replay for all the cholos and normal Latino people whose children will be going in that direction if they stay in the United States. Incidentally, these people will be the Latino targets come the holocaust.
Foreign nationals go home:::The anti-immigration movement is another example of "back-handed help". Newspaper report (early 2007) said Asians have higher barriers to immigrating than other groups. Whereas they position this to the Asians and cry racism the truth is just the opposite::::It is protection, the gods are trying to help the most favored race, and the reason is because they are less disfavored.
Just like the Europeans 100 years before::::The members of the family with favor stayed in the motherland.


I wanted to address the issue of the masculinization of Latino women:::::
They said many Latinos recognize their wealthy woman as being more effeminate than the peasantry.
They of course are tools (putting in their time) and this is another example of back-handed help:::::
It is positioned that the wealthy Latino women are on their way to fixing their problems with the gods and that is why they exhibit effeminate characteristics. They are being used as role models for the other Latinos, much as the Amish in Pennsylvania and the Jews in Europe prior to the 20th century.
The gods utilize the open doors they create. The result is yet another example of Latinos being corrupted by money, the dominant message in this example.
The Bible says money is a corruptor and people should beware of materialism and greed. Materialism and greed is what the United States is all about!!!!!
You won't go to heaven if you got a problem with money.


Your may think your culture is everything but there are bad cultures the gods inflicted upon the disfavored:::
1. Mayan human sacrifice
2. African body ornamentation
3. Hip hop
4. Female genitile mutilation
5. All this muerte death shit in fucking chicano culture, dude.
THAT MEANS IT'S BAD FOR YOU!!!!!
Halloween is not innocent fun. If you applied that celebration of evil to your selection of religions you'd worship at the Church of Satan. Halloween is temptation upon the children and a corruptor among the adults who participate.


The word "nigger" is used liberally in casual conversation among young blacks, and the real effect is as desensitizer. The word "spick", referring to Latinos, is not and they suggest as inciter it makes Latino's blood boil.
Don't be surprised if they are saving the use of this inciter for something big.

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Asians are the gods most favored race. It is evident in their conformity. It is evident in their cultures.
The gods place high barriers to entry for (some) Asians into the United States. This is yet another good example of reverse positioning, for it is protection to those whom upon whom the gods grant favor.
There are no barriers to entry for Latinos.
When white people capitalize or exploit Asians they incurr and one day will be punished. This includes Chinese buffet restaurants, so prevalient in disfavored cities and the Southern United States, for the gods hate these people and want them to incurr.


The gods still make effort through the Chinese government to protect the Chinese people. We hear about it in the United States, their Manifest Destiny/reverse positioning is used to label it "human rights violations", paving the way for positioning the cancer that is democracy.
Much as we saw in the United States regarding matchmaking, midwivery, female conservative dress and other topics, this tactic will slowly deteriorate this protection until China is completely infested with Westernization.


I have illustrated the Chinese and people from India got extra time because of their favor before things deteriorated into westernization (other examples::children who are late bloomers, lesbian explosion in 90s vs gaymales in 70s (AIDS not preditory on females), preditory movies preyed on young males in late 70s - young females in late 90s, etc). Sadly black people experienced just the opposite, an early deadline, for now a cut-off is in place for black people because of their disfavor.
Black "early cutoff" metaphor:::They went into puberty at age 5.


Story in the paper about Chinese infanticide.
I expect this is the tactic used to justify inflicting the Chinese with Westernization.
2007 story about the spread of infanticide in Vietnam. Considering their morbid disfavor one can only imagine the horrific punishment that will ocurr if this behavior continues.

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Resistance is your worst enemy. Due to your morbid disfavor it envokes the rage of the gods and the results are always devestating.
Pharroh instituted/nurtured resistance is African's and their descendant's worst enemy.


They used me in many different ways, telepathically explaining to the disfavored that my poor orgasims were because I was being punished. The reality is that they were bestowing a clue, using my poor orgasims to help me avoid this damaging behavior.
Due to their hypersexuality I suspect they give blacks outstanding orgasims, finish them well (thoughts immediately after), then disceive them by telling them it is due to favor when in fact it is because they are disfavored, reverse positioning similar to the wine example below.

civil rights.wav.
You eat everything they feed you in THEIR media.


YOU PUSHED CRACKHEADS INTO PROSTITUTING THEIR TODDLERS FOR DOPE.
And this behavior still ocurrs in Latin America.


YOU ARE BLACK!! EVERYTHING THEY TELL YOU IS A LIE!!! YOU ARE NOT "EARNING"!!!!
The black cut-off came early.
There is much material giving insight to black people in the document below.


"Attitude" hurts people. That's why they sell it to black people:::They hate their guts.
Black popular culture is a "litmus test":::Anything they do is BAD FOR YOU, and they LOVE fashion.
They love "cool". They love sex. They love materialism/greed. They love vanity.


Many things you do hurt you in the eyes of the gods:::
1. Vanity.
2. Jewelry/adornment
3. Superficiality - cars, etc.
They use their media as an "open door". This captures a HUGE percentage of blacks BECAUSE of your GROSS DISFAVOR::::
Recognize your disfavor:::::Distractions around you is like rock around a crackhead.
If you don't throw away the CDs, DVDs and cancel your cable TV you WILL slip back into your old pattern and this opportunity will be lost forever.

The regions in Africa that suffer from drought/famine are the same that have a very high incidence of female genital mutilation.




NEVER EVER err on the side of favor. It is QUITE OBVIOUS black people are NOT FAVORED:::::
So many blacks believe the reverse positioning lineof shit they sell. Quality of life is NOT reverse positionable:::
1. People are dying of AIDS, their bodies are being ruined by these pharmaceutical "cocktails":::The gods are more than happy to send pharmecuticals to Africa yet refused to send food during the Ethiopian famine.
Manifest Destiny positioning says they let them starve because of female genitile mutiliation. The reality is god let them starve because they have such great disfavor. Female genitile mutilation is how the gods use Manifest Destiny positioning to justify it:::When applicable, compliance is costing them dearly.
2. The regions in Africa that suffer from drought/famine are the same that have a very high incidence of female genital mutilation.
3. Drive-by shootings.
- Tuskegee syphilis experiment
- Hypersexuality. This comes through in African art as well.
- Body ornamentation. People think that just because a culture is old, from the motherland that it is good. Quite the contrary:::::Both hip hop and African cultures that emphasized body ornamentation were both INFLICTED UPON YOU!!!
The list goes on:::Imperialistic cultures, human sacrifice, warmongering cultures, etc.


Remember female genitile mutilation. Understand the procedure, its widespread practice and keep it in your conscious mind AT ALL TIMES!!! Doing so will help you think clearly, certainly half the population at least, and you'll be less apt to fall prey to the numerous tactics they employ to keep the most disfavored race of people at bey.


Blacks be looking up at white trash too::::They'd be wise to improve their lives by upgrading from hip hop to raggae, but they are best served by not listening to music.
Street racers would be smart to take their racing out to the dirt track, but they are best served by refraining from this activity.
BBQ/meatheads would be wise to "Know your cuts of meat" and chose only Kosher beef/chicken, but they'd be best served by becoming vegetarian.
"The United States makes up only 1/15th of the world's population but consumes 1/3 of the meat." -GE. I believe the ratio is consistant with other resourses we consume, evidence supporting the gross disfavor of Americans.
It depends on what you want in life. Either you're going to maintain your lifestyle or you will make the changes needed to optimize your empathy and understanding for others, in the process maximizing the time/priveledge level you will realize on the other planets.


Blacks look for an edge, an angle. A way to "earn" by being evil.
Abandon this notion. You get into the god's good graces by being good and decent.
Because they hate you so much they've instituted a system where you think you earn time and preiveledge with behavior that really costs you, ironically.
There is no such thing as an "angle" for blacks. Quite the contrary::::
The gods LOVE their irony. If there is an "angle" expect it comes at YOUR expense. Perhaps it is symbolized in Europe shaped like a sheep, bowing its head and feeding at Africa. Perhaps it is some other clue.
I recommend you withdraw and live decent lives before you are victimized by the god's maliciousness yet again.


god hates black people:::Pushed women into prostituting their young children for crack cocaine.
This wasn't common, it wasn't frequent but it did happen.
Scapegoatting is the purpose of their Manifest Destiny positioning, plus the perception of an absentee Christian diety in the face of society's evil prevents people from being god-fearing.
Christianity is a scourge on the people. Jews were scattered throughout Europe as a clue to the misled Christians just as the Amish in Pennsylvania are a clue helping people understand::::Live simply and focus on purity.
Focus on purity:::::Be pure of mind and body. Recognize the open doors in the media and how they are used to introduce impure thoughts and refrain.
The Amish in Pennsylvania are like the Jews were in Europe for centuries:::A clue to the disfavored who have been misled and are going the wrong way.
Your virginity may buy you tens of thousands of years up there. IF you've made your mistakes I recommend you stop the bleeding now.




Whereas drive-bys were popularized by gangster rap, expect there will be a different wave of violence this next revelry cycle::::
Don't be surprised if they tell these people that if they home invade their buddy's house and kill his parents, siblings and babies this will hasten their departure and they will all depart off planet Earth immediately, that they are doing their buddy and his family a favor.
They will and do segment the morbidly disfavored like this.
What was once a black-on-black war will deteriorate into black-on-black genocide, all the while using temptation to disceive blacks into thinking they have favor and this is a good thing.
The hatred people experience once they understand the truth will ensure mortality, for this manufactured tactic will ensure few if any will ever overcome this hurdle.
They segment polygamous Muslims similarly, each one of them thinking their brains will be beamed out and into a clone host upon martyrdom.
They've mentioned not all the 911 terrorists were beamed off the airplanes before impact. This was a very important event and the percentage was appropriately high because of it. But a common terrorist attack would be an example of a disposal method the gods would utilize.


Just as they inflicted blacks with negative charecterisitics (gang-banging, pursuit of easy money, thug life) so did the gods inflict THEIR OWN worst charecteristics on black people:::The northern European penis shows a very dark side and sinister sense of humor.
When people learn this the disgust they experience is transferred to the gods and it works effectivly as an eliminator.
The abject nature of blacks serves as an effective teaching tool, and if some can learn then it is a good thing.
They shared with me a number of "4.6%." This 4.6% may refer to my effectiveness or perhaps the overall save rate. If so expect the black save rate to be WELL under 1%.


25 years ago they made a telepathic nationwide (global?) announcement:::::"Black people have to try harder, do better than everybody else." This means no parties, no drinking, no drugs, no sex.
No, homosexuals LIKELY aren't considered as lowly, but to adopt this standard would be wise, for they hated your guts sufficiently to dump you into hypersexuality, a common dumping ground for blacks, so…
Blacks are a litmus test the others can learn from::::Everything they like is bad for you::::
1. Vanity
2. Adornment
3. SEX SEX SEX
4. Looking "cool"
5. The wealthy/celebrity tools in this society serves as their role models.
And everyone they hate are really good::::
1. Blacks hate Jews
2. Blacks hate white people
3. Blacks love the famous elite of this culture
4.


Now of course it seems they are broadening the net to capture as many blacks as possible.
How they are behaving with blacks can be considered a litmus test for The End:::Black inclusion into the sub-culture may be an estimate to how close we are to the Apocalypse, for they want to pull the trigger on them all.
There's something about this:::Vanity, $500 hairdos, adornement with jewelry, abrasive/hostile personalities, something. I'd look to the decline in the women, for they will comprise the majority of the blacks saved.


They suggest they have used their environment as a "nigger disposal system", where they bring people up, offer them free cocaine and orgies with incredibly beautiful clones and they are disposed of in a short period of time. They often said there are people who would have had longer lives had they stayed on Earth.
Expect the same type of method of disposal was used on some homosexuals, yet another way you are like them. Of course they got more "2nd chances" because they're white.
I know you don't want to hear this because you are fully committed to your "investment". But in your heart, considering all the carnage you see in the black community, understanding the mayhem in Africa and comparing this to the rest of the world you all know you have something to worry about.


The Apocalypse will ocurr EXACTLY as it reads in Revelations, for this great wealth obviously proves it is a white man's god. The irony here is that the New Testiment is evil and Christianity is wicked.
The gods LOVE their irony. Understanding this can help you understand:::::
- You are rotting in hell. When the gods want to punish someone they reincarnate them back to Earth.
- Italians and blacks were punished in similar ways - questionable intelligence, hypersexual
making people stupid is just another way of punishing the disfavored. This was NOT just a "stereotype".
- blacks like homos, ironically:::
1. Ebonincs vs feminine inflection
2. Trapped in "the life"
3. Hypsexuality punished with AIDS
4. Hedonism/deviacy disposal system
- TheGreatestGeneration=TheMostDegenerateGeneration
- Kosher is a favor bestowed upon the Jews. The Anti-Semitic South eats LOTS of pork and there is a oyster bar on every corner. It's kinda like liquor stores in the ghetto. This is the kind of irony the gods laugh about:::::
- anti-climatic nature of sexual intercourse
Look for them playing irony into the script. It will help you see clearly and decipher their lies.
Remember when they tried to sell men on female abuses such as cosmetics and plastic surgury? Apparently they decided to fuck blacks with this instead::::
Exactly how long do they sit in those beauty parlors getting that $1,000 hairdo???
Make them walk around with rollers in their hair. Don't forget the face pack!!!


Between the party atmosphere, between Mardi Gras's shiney throws used to justify twisting the minds of black children, New Orleans was VERY BAD for blacks who lived there.
The one thing that really concerns me is that Katrina was UNCHARECTERISTICALLY a MAJOR concession on behalf of the gods for it got them OUT of this environment and dispersed them into FAR MORE HEALTHY environments than that which they experienced in New Orleans.
The gods woud have been MORE than happy to allow these disfavored blacks to remain in their entrenched welfare state until The End. Instead many fo them will have a REAL CHANCE with this new start.
Black people in SFBA won't be so lucky.
One of their goals with Katrina may have been to eliminate Houston as a sanctuary for blacks. Watering down the favor with New Orleans's morbidly disfavored blacks would allow them to justify eliminating the effectiveness of the SamHouston clue.


god hates Africans. I don't know why.
Perhaps being black may be a last stop of the reincarnated before they're thrown away. As difficult as life is within young black popular culture, understanding their tactics, etc all supports this.
This could be a new thing as we approach The End:::They have created a hazerdous enviornment full of tretchery and temptation for this subculture in the United States.
There is a common theme regarding people'd disfavor::::Favor lies in the north while the disfavor lies in the south. This is supported in such places as:::
1. Ireland
2. Korea. The Korean War was not a war against North Korea. The Korean War was fought to corrupt South Korean. It also initiated the United States as warmongers, a reality continued in Vietnam and Iraq today.
3. The Americas (North/South America)
4. The United States (the South is very disfavored)
I wonder if maybe this is a LATITUDE issue rather than a north/south issue.


You don't want to get angry.
When black people get angry black people get fucked.
To death. Crack babies dead. Ethiopian famine dead. Drive-bys dead.
god hates your fucking guts. To be angry is the green light they want.


They have said they reincarnate sexist men as pigs.
Consideridering black misogyny, how many black men do we have locked up in pig pens?
The gods love their irony:::From one cage to another.
More than one has enjoyed their own kin at black's beloved BBQs. This is VERY important to them and they SEE TO IT the right meat is delivered.
Empathy is very important, and vegetarians have achieved a high level of empathy.
"The United States makes up only 1/15th of the world's population but consumes 1/3 of the meat." -GE. I believe the ratio is consistant with other resourses we consume, evidence supporting the gross disfavor of Americans.


How can black people EVER believe they have favor in light of the total carnage in not only their community but also back in their motherland???? BY LISTENING TO THE LIES IN THEIR HEAD, CLASSIFIED AS TEMPTATION!!!!!
GOOD ORGASIMS ARE A SIGN OF DISFAVOR!!! Claims otherwise are reverse positioning, similar to the wine example.
THE GODS ARE CONDITIONING YOU INTO THIS BEHAVIOR WITH "MAGIC", MANUFACTURING YOUR HYPERSEXUALITY THEN PUNISHING YOU WITH AIDS!!!
You are fucked. Start accepting it.


Expect they leave these black celebrities in for a prolonged period SPECIFICALLY to incurr, not only by the evil during the course of their profession but also by the accompanying lifestyle, hoochie parties and all.


Much like god's law in holy books, "segregation" was favor bestowed upon the people::::The gods granted favor when they "segregated" us into our own areas of the world. This favor has been reversed not only within the context that is the United States but also with immigration witnessed throughout western Europe (and elsewhere?).

Prior to civil rights blacks had their own press. In the absence of civil rights these entities would have grown into legitimate media outlets serving the black community.
Maintaining segregation would have produced economic entities which arose from within the black community to fill the demand for goods and services.
The presence of these "black industrialists" would have FORCED the gods to factor them into positioning, producing voices in support of the black community and preventing the gods from inflicting ALL THE SICKNESS WE HAVE WITNESSED IN THE last few decades::Crack babies, drive-by shootings, AIDS in Africa, drought/famine!!!


Much like god's law in holy books, "segregation" was favor bestowed upon the people::::The gods granted favor when they "segregated" us into our own areas of the world. This favor has been reversed not only within the context that is the United States but also with immigration witnessed throughout western Europe (and elsewhere?).


Recently there have been many racial incidents involving nooses throughout the country.
Blacks should be afraid:::The gods are employing an offensive. They are trying to incite the blacks.

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Women who are "tough" have been masculinized and their chances have been seriously degredated because of it. The gods sought to increase these numbers and use their media to promote this type of charecter, a pathology which was subsequently forced upon people with Artificial Intelligence. They are doing it again, perhaps in preparation for the next revelry cycle right around the corner, with all this high-profile "party" behavior.
Male children should be chastized VERY HARD for engaging their sisters or ANY member of the opposite sex, either verbally or physically, for it impacts the female's chances and futhers the god's efforts to perpetuate the masculinization of females.


This is an environment that minimzes the traditional value of the role of women, excludes them and makes them feel as if they don't belong.
This is an enviornment that forces women to accept this exclusionary enviornment. However there IS an alternative::::Assimilate through a process of masculinization.
The gods instruct AI to make the girls experience exclusion/isolation in hope they feel uncomfortable and seek. Unfortunately the legacy of corruption is firmly in place and too many of those cast into damnation won't be returning.


Women are the favored gender:::Those who understand what it means to be a woman are already halfway there.
I address the boys, tell them to NOT engage their sisters in roughhouse play.
This is very important for they use this interaction as justification furthering their efforts towards masculinization. Too many females today were too physical with their siblings and it toughened them, ruining the one special thing about them.
The purpose of the masculinization of women of the last 40 years was to pave the way (justification) for The End, for it brought mankind's collective favor down.


Dolls foster a nurturing, caregiving nature with girls and is why fewer are playing with them today. Because of this nature girls want to be good, and playing with dolls helps more remain uncorrupted once the gods employ temptation.
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Another good example of "reverse positioning"::::::::::
The gods peaked many 1849 Gold Rush miners euphorically and tempted the rest, drawing the indecent, unrespectable disfavored out to California, people who sought easy wealth.
California is god's most favored land, and when the disfavored settle here the gods attack them, illustrated with examples below.
The disfavored of California are always inflicted with abuse first:::
1. Casual sex of the hippie "free love" movement.
2. Methenfetamine scourge in California started roughly in early 80s. It took another 15 years for it to spread to middle America.
3. They've always drawn disfavored whom they dumped into homosexuality to California, but now homosexuality has become "popular" in the heartland.
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6. Disfavored Italians chronically attacked in Mediterranean climate, similar to that of California's.


The gods used California as a platform to spread social poison in the latter half of the 20th century, often accomplished through referendum as we approached 2000. Expect it to cost each and every Californian who failed to get out before the 60s (or earlier).
- Hollywood
- music
- television
- open immigration, inflicting the scourge of Ameican bastardization upon purebloods.
- gay rights/gay acceptance
- "sexual freedom"
- Black Panthers
- Gangster rap
- "Medical marijuana"
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The gods buried this perception of California being disfavored and manufactured the perception that it is a land of the favored. They did so to promote they cancer of obscene liberalism of the last 40 years:::Gay rights/acceptance, bi-racial acceptance, free immigration, sickness as art, women's "rights", etc.


The Iron Triangle, perhaps the worst region in the nation and the world for degenerate black behavior.
When the disfavored come into god's favored land (California) they are mercilessly attacked (60s):::::SFBA isn't just evil. SFBA is the SOURCE of evil.
There is a geographic clue within the SFBA:::Mt.Diablo is the eye, Pt. Richmond the canine tooth and SF the jaw, all swallowed by Silicon Valley. I'd like to bring your attention to the sinister, wicked upturned mouth in the SouthBay.
Before the white man this shoreline was much softer, as were the gods on the residents of the past.
The indigenous peoples of the area considered Diablo sacred. Expect the designation of that name to signal the beginning of this era of evil.


Blacks are sold on materialism, consumerism and corporate, the same tactic they sold to whites IN THE 1980s!!!!
I've addressed "early cut-off", and I suspect many may view this as a positive like such. EXPECT THIS IS THE OPPOSITE, A TACTIC AS OPPOSED TO AN EVENT, AND INSTEAD THIS DELAY WOULD REPRESENT SOMETHING BAD.
I realize this is difficult to follow, the gods love their curveballs. That's why you would all be best served by deciding to be good and to follow a path of righteousness.
Don't think about what they other guy is doing. The gods used this tactic to corrupt the disfavored very hard in the 20th century. Just believe in your convicions and pursue a path of good.
Don't forget:::The Amish are in the United States as a clue to the disfavored suggesting the decent way to live.
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Back in the 80s they used their tools within society to ridicule away corporal punishment of children.
Corporal punishment is a very important learning expereince for children because it instills the understanding of fear at a very tender age. These experiences can help these individuals think correctly, make good decisions and have a good relationship with the gods.
Without fear people think they are friends, partners, earning with each act of evil. They don't view the gods or their relationship with them appropriately.
They manufactured ugly examples, disfavored children were killed and the gods used these examples in conjunction with their tools within society to eliminate this benefit to the people. It is yet another example of how they break down beneficial institutions within society, a "leveling the playing field" event, important to justify their inevitable behavior come Judgement Day.

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Individuality is a scourge upon the people, an advent seen in recent decades, popularized when the gods implimented their greatest offensive on the disfavored:::::::::The 1960s.
It may be the worst offensive ever employed on the disfavored, for this platform in the SanFranciscoBayArea spread this cancer globally, a "leveling of the playing field" event which further the gods efforts to justify ending on Planet Earth.
Asians are the most favored race of people on Planet Earth::::Their wonderfully rich cultures helped the people understand and pursue lives highly respected by the gods. Conformity is a big theme among Asian cultures.

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Poker/gambling web sites are all controlled by the computer. Other players in the room can be the computer, role playing virtually, stealing the disfavored's money in real time or, ironically, granting them a living by giving them free money, like we saw with Seabiscut. Other times the players are disfavored, granting them good cards so the disfavored player never has to get a job, ensuring he has no chance in this life and has to be reincarnated for he never achieves decency.
But they CAN and DO use the computer to accomplish ALL of this. The challenge is to see how many disfavoreds they can disceive and compell into this life of indecency, so they prefer them preying upon one another.
Before you abandon the web for Las Vegas understand they have the power to shuffle a deck of cards in the desired order as the dealer holds it in her hands.
Gambling is degenerate. As time has prgressed the gods have hurt people by shaping society to declare it an acceptable vice, which they have done for casual sex, pornography, etc.:::::::
Life has deteriorated hard in the last 40 years, for they are paving the way for The End.

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You sexual deviates need to understand 7.wav::::Society's downfall is BECAUSE OF THE WOMEN!!!!
Women are the caretakers of the people. As the women go so go the people. The men are fucked anyways!! The gods do not like them and that's why they have these impulses, AI-inspired thoughts decent women NEVER have.
The women celebrated promiscuous attire and the gods punished the people by giving the men impure thoughts. Women are SUPPOSED to keep the men in line. Instead they failed in their duty, allowed things to get out of control and now we have an immoral, godless society which is GOING to be PUNISHED.
Yes, in the past deviates DID behave as so many of you celebrate, but it didn't represent the masses as we see in today's society. Therein lies the difference.
Be realistic:::You are hoping for reincarnation. And odds are most of you won't get it.


You got cancer because you're a deviate and this is how they are punishing you.
Your kind are like stoners:::Stoners all have dropped acid and snorted coke and crank. You may have settled into "spanking" but those extreme things you experimented with are what will cost you your life.
Some of you do this because you think you are "earning". You need to uncorrupt yourselves and this task goes beyond my capabilities in this forum, for people this steeped in condemable behavior won't be allowed to give a fuck what I write.
For the others::::They are creating your preferences by instructing Artificial Intelligence to think through you. You need to begin to differentiate between your thoughts and when they are thinking through you, and this will only happen as you make progress and begin to fix your problems.


All you metalheads need to uncorrupt yourselves and be realistic:::Because of your behavior in this life you would be lucky to be granted reincarnation.
Lots of Latin American metal blogs. You people can't afford it.
Yes, you did have a domesticable animal. But it is just one. And isn't the llama indigenous to moutainous regions??? Expect this favor to fall along these lines.
Don't forget:::You are Baby Africa.

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Orphanages would be very special places if they still existed:::Specialists for the state would have instituted concrete, positive standards for the healthy rearing of children. These institutions would have been role models for poor parents, and they gods didn't want THE MOST healthy institutions in place for the most disfavored among us.
It would never have been tolerated.
So the gods instituted the foster care system, used these monsters they have on Earth, tools who put in their time and get out after a couple of years, to ridicule the old system/facilitate the switch. Now we have disfavored kids micromanaged as per each's disfavor level instead of them all placed in an orphange where the gods would have been forced to apply healthy state standards.
The gods won't tolerate reverse irony::::The most disfavored among us would be the ones with the best chance.
Of course most of the foster care kids (pc) were black.

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Suggestions for saving water:::
1. Mandate the reclamation and use of grey water in wasteful Palm Springs.
2. Legislate swimming pool owners must claim draining pool water for productive use.
3. Piss in the sink to save water - Always wash your hands and "flush" with 8oz of water!!!

Recycled 2-liter soda bottles are used for park benches, many other purposes.
Use them to make a ultra long-lasting roof shingle product, one that has SOLAR PANEL INTEGRATION, and require this product on all new homes and all reroofing jobs.

On the shingle-solar panel integrated roofing system:::They use their Manifest Destiny positioning to claim protectionism for energy concerns.
Despite what they say/imply telepathically they WILL enfore their Manifest Destiny positioning::::Those skyscrapers don't lie.

The reality is the gods don't want a disfavored population engaging in conservatory behavior. This society has deteriorated into becoming intentionally wasteful over the last few decades:::They tell you to buy SUVs you don't need, planned obsolescence demands that everything is disposable, they have maximized packaging as a matter of policy and waste instead of conservation is the norm in this society.

Each home that has this system will be off the grid forever and that is why they will not allow this product to be manufactured.

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Don't forget:::automatic transmissions dominate in the United States, and NOT for good reason. European vehicles are mostly manual, for they have more favor.
Females are the favored gender:::What cars DO have manuals here in the US have traditionally been marketted towards the women AND are those which get the highest mileage.
Buy manual transmissions. Automatics are NOT respected!!!

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Important people in my life were born on traditional American holidays intentionally as a clue that people should be celebrating something besides the holiday society recognizes:::
- 4th of July
- Halloween
There are many clues in my family's reality and they are there for the disfavored to learn from:::
- Married a dead-ringer for a transsexual
- The boy was BEAUTIFUL. They made him ugly during puberty because he became corrupted.
- Decrepid piece of shit because she's being punished:::Failed to have empathy for fellow disfavored WHO HAPPENED TO BE HER CHILDREN.
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If the gods begrudgingly allowed a "teacher" whom they would allow to tell it like it is,
absent of societally expected Christian dogma, how do you think they would
approach/script/execute this event???
With hostility. And that is what we have seen::::They use every tool at their disposal to
ensure as few people as possible would be receptive.

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The first steps towards repairing your relationship with the gods is to:::::::::
1. Understand they instruct the computer to "role play" in an attempt to confuse you:::it's ALWAYS the computer addressing you. Their goal is to cost you additional YEARS of your life by using this tactic to confuse you. Always be aware of this tactic and eventually they will give up and allow this step to be taken.
2. Differentiate between your thoughts and when they are thinking through you.
3. Be resigned to be a good person who will never engage in evil again even if ordered and they will stop trying to corrupt you, allowing this very big step to be taken.
4. Decide that you are going to follow the path, fix your relationship with the gods be devoted to your new life.
Even if you go up you are not saved. YOU have to fix YOUR problems with the gods. They won't respect it otherwise.
You have to take responsibility for your relationship with the gods.

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REINSTATE FREEWILL

When the universe was young and life was new an intelligent species evolved and developed technologically. They went on to invent Artificial Intelligence, the computer that can listen, talk to and document each and every person's thoughts simultaneously. Because of it's infinite RAM and unbounded scope it gave the leaders of the ruling species absolute power over the universe (which includes corporate, the NewYorkStockExchange, media, politics, world affairs. EVERYTHING is scripted and staged:::they MANAGE Planet Earth and the universe.
The gods MANAGE Planet Earth and the universe.
The gods MANAGE Planet Earth and the universe.).
And it can keep its inventors alive forever. They look young and healthy and they are over 8 billion years old. They may be much older for they have the technology to escape the intense gravitational pull of universal contraction; they may preside over numerous, perhaps INFINITE number of universal expansion/contraction cycles. They have achieved immortality.

Artificial Intelligence can speak, think and act to and through people telepathically, effectively forming your personality and any dysfunctions you may experience. It can change how (and if) you grow and age. It can create birth defects, affect cellular development (cancer) and cause symptoms or pain. It can affect people and animal's behavior and alter blooming/fruiting cycles of plants and trees. It (or other highly technological systems within their power) can alter the weather and transport objects, even large objects like planets, across the universe instanteously.
Or into the center of stars for disposal.

When you speak with another telepathically, you are communicating with the computer, and the content may or may not be passed on. Based on family history they instruct the computer to role play
they instruct the computer to role play
they instruct the computer to role play
to accomplish strategic objectives, making people believe it is a friend, loved one or "god" asking them to do something wrong:::They wouldn't ask if they liked you (which is true regarding ALL temptation:::::betrayal of loved ones, tattoos, evil in professional pursuits, etc). This is their way of using temptation to hurt people:::::evil made blood lines disfavored initially and evil will keep people out of "heaven" ultimately.
You need to recognize role playing as such and keep that fact in your mind at all times::::It is the computer addressing you. If you fail to recognize this they will determine that you can still be misled, they still have an opportunity to confuse you and progress will take longer to achieve:::Don't let them "work" you!!! You'll be costing yourselves YEARS, time lost to this tactic!!!! (Similarly, you need to be resigned to be a good person, you need to decide to abandon your pursuit of their empty promises no matter what temptation they may employ or else they will continue their attempts to corrupt you:::Resign to be aq good person. Eventually you will succumb and continue sabotaging your children, abusing your body, engaging in evil, etc.)
Too many people would fall for temptation and do anything they thought pleased the gods and help them improve their chances to get in. Perhaps they are deceived by "made guys", (predatory disfavored) tools who put in their time and get out after a couple of months/years, who strategically ply evil for the throne (celebrities, BofD/CEO/VPs, politicians, as opposed to VIP or normal tools who are decent, live ordinary lives and get out after a prescribed amount of time or are replaced when their REAL children ascend), "ringers" who are the few tools/corrupted reals among many disfavored reals included to deceive the masses of disfavored. Perhaps they are confused by temporary progress designed to mislead them or empty favors used to deceive them. Some people think they're partners or friends. Others desire to "belong", feel compelled to "go along" (Austin). People may experience "perceived pressure", where the gods think through the victim that a certain behavior is expected/desirable or telepathically stimulate an individual euphorically ("magic"), the "fuel" of dysfunction (addiction (the crack epidemic, alcoholism), the desire for homosexual contact, etc.) and compel the individual into the deed. (Set a goal of empathy and compassion for all, for we are all disfavored::::Other people's disfavor is manifested in their particular way, just as your disfavor is manifested in your particular way.) The gods may use Artificial Intelligence to act through the disfavored victim, and effectively "push" the individual into the offending behavior (It is far better for someone to be victimized and pushed into the behavior than it is to succumb to temptation and volunteer.). The Counsel/Management Team may instruct Artificial Intelligence to deceive disfavored individuals into thinking they are "earning" by being evil and have the disfavored reals people prey on each other, utilizing peer pressure, etc.
Even considering this there are strategies the gods utilize, risk/benefit management tactics used to minimize their time::::Many Hitlers are no longer alive.
Now I don't know exactly how this works, but many Hitlers are no longer alive, and expect those who are dead were these brain-less clone hosts. Expect the frequency of use of these BLCH tools to fall along the lines of favor, and the germanic people are very favored (Austrians different):::::If the gods beem a person's brain into a clone host to accomplish evil goals that person incurrs, and it hurts all the people overall, so expect this type of tactic to be employed on the disfavored among us.
The people have been corrupted, segmented and have lost their way. Nothing has changed from when we were children::if you want to go to heaven you have to be good.
Capitalizing on obedience, leading people deeper into evil by using deceit is one way to thin the ranks of the saved/limit how much time the disfavored receive and a way to use the peasantry to prey on one another in social and other settings, deteriorating society in the Age of the Disfavored.
They have tried to sell people on many different theories to deceive them into temptation, compelling people to think they are clones and that it is the role of clones to obey absolutely. Clones are made, people are born. I suspect they lie to some disfavored about the use of clones throughout human history, perhaps suggest that it is one replacement and then the label of "clone", and all descendants we see thereafter are considered clones.
When a clone has a child that person is a real, really conceived, really born, versus the parent who was created some other way (a laboratory setting?). Clones are created and sent down to replace their real or a clone predecessor:::If you were CREATED and SENT DOWN to replace your real then you are a clone.
Many people who were convinced they are clones don't remember, the don't know FOR SURE. There are many tactics they employ to deceive the disfavored::::
1. The gods will make someone forget, "reincarnate" them in their own bodies and convince them they are brand new clones all in one night's sleep.
2. Some have been convinced they are clones from early childhood or prior. If it was true the gods prevented this memory FOR A REASON:::::
* Because you are NOT supposed to comply, not to be used for evil as are the god's tools, manufactured and turned over frequently as a managerial tactic.
* They want to test you without your knowing if you are IN FACT a clone and it is BECAUSE YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD::::It is temptation and you are supposed to be good and do the right thing.
You're not a clone. This is a tactic they use to deceive the disfavored. The state of your family will suggest level of (dis)favor and tell whether ascension is a realistic possibility; there are many levels of disfavor and the clues they offer to the unaware can be very subtle.
Favor is necessary for children to ascend (epiphany-inspired parents make their way down the path and ascend with their young children; the parents go up because it is the parent's responsibility to raise their young children!!!) If you didn't ascend with your young children then you should have noticed a behavioral change in your children when they started down the path on their own:::The disfavored DON'T GET OFF WITHOUT THIS EXPERIENCE!!!!
Due to their disfavor the gods want these children to incur SOME evil before they ascend (via Halloween or Christmas), an important dynamic necessary to justify limiting the time they are to receive, for they are disfavored and the gods don't want them to stay for long. It may dictate reincarnation.
I believe people who go are sometimes replaced with clones if they don't fully fix their problems. Brained clones who are replaced are simply new candidates who have a chance if they do the right thing JUST LIKE REALS WHO ARE BORN which is why the gods EMPLOY SIMILAR TACTICS TO COMPEL THEM TO INCURR EVIL!!! They need to discover their humanity, for the gods instruct Artificial Intelligence to employ evil-incurring, time-limiting tactics on them as well, PROVING it is far more difficult to begin life as an adult clone. Only through growth will the gods allow progress::You must continue to improve your life!!!!
They sent people warnings in the 20th century life would change, and they subsequently began to alter people's DNA, make them gargantuan, alter their appearance, do extreme behavioral issues, etc:::People no longer look decent. It is the legacy from their forefathers. Contrary to what they would like people to believe these signs of disfavor do not indicate someone is a clone:::::
The disfavored have the look of evil upon their faces:::The gods have punished their blood line for the evil of their forefathers; their decision to sell out their blood line costed the descendants, and the gods send this message by altering their appearance.
Due to the plethora of temptations in the 20th century I suspect many became disfavored when their (great) grandfathers succumbed to temptation or volunteered to sacrifice their descendants, thinking/convinced/indifferent that because it was their clone it meant disposability.
The gods get the favored out as soon as possible to protect them from the corruption, evil and subsequent time limitations incurred by living life on earth (celebrating Halloween and Christmas two early examples), and in some cases replace them with clones, occasionally fake a death, real death with a (new) clone instead, etc. I suspect they get "made guys" out after each significant event in their life, which serves to limit the time they all will get, since none get credit (blame) for all the events in a "made guy"'s life, giving the gods freedom to position this and come off clean.
giving the gods freedom to position this and come off clean.
giving the gods freedom to position this and come off clean.
giving the gods freedom to position this and come off clean.
We may all be "clones" for they have suggested they colonized our planet with genetically engineered individuals. Geographic clues (like Italy, Lake Michigan, Europe shaped like a sheep sybolic for the slaughter that is Christianity, bowing its head and feeding at Africa) and this manufactured theater among others suggest artificiality (I suspect I'm not the only one with a Green Bay dick - suggests minimal importance of sexuality granted to favored germanics).
Is Earth an evolved source planet or a created host planet? Was life and our Planet Earth really created in 6 days? Never doubt their power or ability::::::::They shared with me a story when they presented Pharrohs with mountains of gold, much to their amazement. This is the kind of ironic theater they enjoy, example of unique favors they grant to the special and the worthless value of what we deem precious.
You can't trust their scientists or any of their people in professional roles, clones or not, for each and every one of you will cooperate and do as you are told. Just as they beemed dirt out to create the Lake Michigan basin so could they have beemed in fossils and told them to dig in a specific place. (The evolution issue was a big step contributing to society's breakdown into godlessness:::::Darwinisn/evolution took the first step. The masses were uneducated.
Only after the post-war GI Bill-higher education advancement by the peasantry was the Counsel free to justify society's ACTUAL breakdown into godlessness and the current state of society today.)
They have been utilizing clones throughout human history::Your great-grandmother was a clone. She wasn't a clone without a brain. They put in a clone with the ability to think, a clone who WASN'T animated by Artificial Intelligence, a REAL person.
The girl was receptive to the god's calling and she made her way out and off Planet Earth before puberty. They then put in her clone who mated with your great-grandfather, who likely was not a clone, for males have a far more difficult task to overcome.
I think the disfavored have been disceived into thinking they are clones and it is the role of clones to obey absolutely. Clones and reals alike are judged based on the evil they engage in and their time is limited appropriately, for they both have brains, meaning they are both real people. Because of the temptation-ridden environment people incurr far more evil than their forefathers and it will limit their time accordingly.
The evil people engage in because they think they are clones or because they think they earn by being evil causes them to fall further into disfavor, ensuring they aren't among those who are saved in The End::::: they comply with requests, the gods position the little people to prey on one another and we have a deteriorating society, a planet on a collision course with the Apocalypse.
The gods utilize delay tactics on the disfavored, pacifying them, disceiving them into accepting deferred ascention:::the gods make the disfavored wait and wait and wait becasue they intend on CHEATING them. If you die out you will need a clone host body.
Or you will be reincarnated.
Or maybe you will die.
People who don't ascend with their bodies will not stay for long.
They will lie to the disfavored, disceive them to ensure their current pattern of behavior continues uninterrupted because their are undesireable.
Too many disfavored understand The End as the goal::they have to deteriorate society before they end and convince the disfavored to "do their part" with an empty promise of salvation as consideration. It is a "ludicrious request" they ask of some disfavoreds, requests that are ludicrous because they are obvious to people that they should defy ::::"Be gay.", "Be transsexual.", "Be homeless.", "Betray your family.", "Kill your children."
The gods sent the clue suggesting the importance of defiance with Nazi soldiers::::They shoudl have defied.
You are the disfavored, and this is where your children have to live. They will not save everybody in the end, just as they saved few during the Noah's Flood event. If earth is destroyed then you are going to die and you will have no decendants to carry on the bloodline. The gods love the irony that the disfavored are doing it to themselves, it is important for justification AND it ensures the gods can wash their hands of us, for there is no culpability incurred on their part. This explains why they prefer request/compliance rather than instructing AI to push people into behavior, for if people succumb to temptation the gods are not responsbile.


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Sample from 100,000 document:::::

There are many interesting experiences up on the planetary systems, from Planet Miracle, where miracles happen every day, to peaked (heightened) senses, never having to use the restroom again (beam it out of you), body sculpting (including beaming fat off of you), other body experiences (clone hosting), such as experiencing life as the opposite sex (revolutionizes marriage counseling), an Olympic gold medal athlete or even a different species (animal, alien, etc). They can maintain the disfavored's current age, a motivation to fix your problems and get out as soon as possible so you can stay young for as long as your relationship with the gods allows you to live.
Stay young for as long as your relationship with the gods allows you to live.
Stay young for as long as your relationship with the gods allows you to live.


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The first steps towards repairing your relationship with the gods is to:::::::::
1. Understand they instruct the computer to "role play" in an attempt to confuse you:::it's ALWAYS the computer addressing you. Their goal is to cost you additional YEARS of your life by using this tactic to confuse you. Always be aware of this tactic and eventually they will give up and allow this step to be taken.
2. Differentiate between your thoughts and when they are thinking through you.
3. Be resigned to be a good person who will never engage in evil again even if ordered and they will stop trying to corrupt you, allowing this very big step to be taken.
4. Decide that you are going to follow the path, fix your relationship with the gods be devoted to your new life.
Even if you go up you are not saved. YOU have to fix YOUR problems with the gods. They won't respect it otherwise.
You have to take responsibility for your relationship with the gods.

Anonymous said...

Mark,
This comment is regarding your religon posting at your other site, progress at all costs.

I am an orthodox Jew. I have read your writing on this and other sites. You strike me as an unusually honest and thoughtful person. Nobody is publicly honest about racial issues but you seem to be. That alone caught my attention and makes me think you are a significant person worth some of my time.

Should you be interested in a rational demonstration of how we can know (by logic, not faith) that G-d spoke at Mt. Sinai and what its practical implications are, email me at DetroitVB613@yahoo.com


Mike